Unequal matching

I came in second place by 11 banners. I did well, I’m just saying that if they want to equally match people and are only doing squad battles, then evenly match character points.

But 10g9 character is samw gp as 5g12 characters so theoretically you could have 2 people with same char gp but it wouldnt be a fair match. Just because in one GA someone have GP advantage doesnt mean they will win for sure.

No it doesn’t, but what is the point of evenly matching points if we aren’t even using our fleet? If we have the same character points and I have distributed my points differently so be it, or let me use my better fleet to gain an advantage, but pitting me against a bunch of people whether they have way more gear 12 players or way more gear 9 players doesn’t seem to be equitable. If we are only playing character combat then those are the only points that should count. But you are winning, so it doesn’t affect you. And I lost by 8 banners, not 11. With 100,000 more points on my characters, I may have been able to hem in 8 more points. I only lost one guy. May the odds be ever in your favor.

Some of the ga matches include ships. I'm assuming the reason they just include total gp instead of separating it is necause that is much easier than changing the algorithm for match making every time just because they put some variety in the event.

We haven't seen a repeating cycle for ga yet so there may be one that weights ships pretty heavily in the future. It is hard to do with only 4 capital ships. The most they could do is 4 fleets total. And you'd have to trim down the reinforcements to make enough ships for that.

But in the end it may all balance out.

If the Grand Arena is evenly matched, then you should see more close scores among similar interest players. So in the 3rd round, when everyone is matched against a player with the same win-loss record, are you seeing blowouts or close games? In my guild, we are seeing a lot of 3rd round matches decided by 20 banners or less. I lost both my 3rd round battles from last GA and this one by a combined total of 10 banners (lost by 2 banners last time; lost by 8 this time). Results that close speak to good balancing.

"Kai_Mulai;c-1732303" wrote:
If the Grand Arena is evenly matched, then you should see more close scores among similar interest players. So in the 3rd round, when everyone is matched against a player with the same win-loss record, are you seeing blowouts or close games? In my guild, we are seeing a lot of 3rd round matches decided by 20 banners or less. I lost both my 3rd round battles from last GA and this one by a combined total of 10 banners (lost by 2 banners last time; lost by 8 this time). Results that close speak to good balancing.

That depends some on the rng of the matching in the first round. Out of the 8 players I had the 3rd best roster. I faced the two above me in the first 2 rounds and won. My opponent had easier matches in the 1st two rounds amd won. My roster is superior to his and I cleared his whole defense because I know how to use my roster.

So there is rng involved in the order you face the tough opponents. But you'll likely have to beat the toughest opponents if you want 1st place.

"Kai_Mulai;c-1732303" wrote:
If the Grand Arena is evenly matched, then you should see more close scores among similar interest players. So in the 3rd round, when everyone is matched against a player with the same win-loss record, are you seeing blowouts or close games? In my guild, we are seeing a lot of 3rd round matches decided by 20 banners or less. I lost both my 3rd round battles from last GA and this one by a combined total of 10 banners (lost by 2 banners last time; lost by 8 this time). Results that close speak to good balancing.

If GA matchmaking was working well we wouldn't see a 30% difference in usable GP between matched opponents.

"Rath_Tarr;c-1732400" wrote:

"Kai_Mulai;c-1732303" wrote:
If the Grand Arena is evenly matched, then you should see more close scores among similar interest players. So in the 3rd round, when everyone is matched against a player with the same win-loss record, are you seeing blowouts or close games? In my guild, we are seeing a lot of 3rd round matches decided by 20 banners or less. I lost both my 3rd round battles from last GA and this one by a combined total of 10 banners (lost by 2 banners last time; lost by 8 this time). Results that close speak to good balancing.

If GA matchmaking was working well we wouldn't see a 30% difference in usable GP between matched opponents.

I have yet to see an example of 30% difference in character gp. I'll concede that a 30% mismatch is possible but it would be extremely rare. If that high of a mismatch was frequent, there would be numerous examples posted.

"DarkHelmet1138;c-1732421" wrote:

"Rath_Tarr;c-1732400" wrote:

"Kai_Mulai;c-1732303" wrote:
If the Grand Arena is evenly matched, then you should see more close scores among similar interest players. So in the 3rd round, when everyone is matched against a player with the same win-loss record, are you seeing blowouts or close games? In my guild, we are seeing a lot of 3rd round matches decided by 20 banners or less. I lost both my 3rd round battles from last GA and this one by a combined total of 10 banners (lost by 2 banners last time; lost by 8 this time). Results that close speak to good balancing.

If GA matchmaking was working well we wouldn't see a 30% difference in usable GP between matched opponents.

I have yet to see an example of 30% difference in character gp. I'll concede that a 30% mismatch is possible but it would be extremely rare. If that high of a mismatch was frequent, there would be numerous examples posted.

My last match was approx 700k vs 900k usable GP. My worst possible matchup in this bracket was 32% difference. Almost 1/3 more GP for my opponent to work with.

When there is a fleet zone I am still at a disadvantage but I can at least leverage my strategic dominance in those zones to give me a reasonable shot at victory.

There is a steady stream of complaint threads popping up, as people realize that there is a problem here, even if they don't always understand what the cause is at first.

The solution is simple: exclude fleet GP if there are no fleet zones (and exclude squad GP if we ever have a fleet-only GA).

"Rath_Tarr;c-1732439" wrote:

"DarkHelmet1138;c-1732421" wrote:

"Rath_Tarr;c-1732400" wrote:

"Kai_Mulai;c-1732303" wrote:
If the Grand Arena is evenly matched, then you should see more close scores among similar interest players. So in the 3rd round, when everyone is matched against a player with the same win-loss record, are you seeing blowouts or close games? In my guild, we are seeing a lot of 3rd round matches decided by 20 banners or less. I lost both my 3rd round battles from last GA and this one by a combined total of 10 banners (lost by 2 banners last time; lost by 8 this time). Results that close speak to good balancing.

If GA matchmaking was working well we wouldn't see a 30% difference in usable GP between matched opponents.

I have yet to see an example of 30% difference in character gp. I'll concede that a 30% mismatch is possible but it would be extremely rare. If that high of a mismatch was frequent, there would be numerous examples posted.

My last match was approx 700k vs 900k usable GP. My worst possible matchup in this bracket was 32% difference. Almost 1/3 more GP for my opponent to work with.

When there is a fleet zone I am still at a disadvantage but I can at least leverage my strategic dominance in those zones to give me a reasonable shot at victory.

There is a steady stream of complaint threads popping up, as people realize that there is a problem here, even if they don't always understand what the cause is at first.

The solution is simple: exclude fleet GP if there are no fleet zones (and exclude squad GP if we ever have a fleet-only GA).

The same 5 people complaining on multiple threads don't prove anything. People complain no matter what the devs do.

You are right that they could change it. I'm simply pointing out tbat they are unlikely to do so if it's only a small fraction that is mismatched.

And since time spent improving the game is finite, fixing what isn't broken wastes time that could be spent on new content or qol updates.