I have been observing the matchmaking on TW for the last few months and it just does not add up. Wins and losses aside, does TW Matchmaking really work?Are you regularly matched against a Guild that has >10% more GP than your GuildAre you regularly matched against a Guild that has significantly more Meta's/GL's than your Guild?Are you regularly matched against a Guild with lower combatants which means they have a higher average GP per playerFair to me means the same number of Players (give or take 1) have entered TW in each guild and the GP of the players entered is within 2%so if 30 players with a combined GP of 100M entered in one guild they should be matched against a guild with 29, 30 or 31 with a combined GP of 98m - 102mIt is true, a mismatch does not necessarily mean you will lose if you are the receiving end but that is not the point here, the point is we want CG to review the match making again and involve the players in that process

I appreciate the way you are going about this, and I don't even necessarily think your idea is bad. Your constructive approach is commendable. That being said, MM is fine and it's better to adapt to it than to expect it to adapt to you.

The last two TW saw us matched with guild that had SIGNIFICANTLY stronger players. Last guild had 4 GL on defense (we have none) The prior war had 2 GL. Needless to say we lost both. I have nothing nice to say about the matching in this game.

People that think things aren't working well are more likely to voice their opinion.

"Natetiffer;c-2153302" wrote:I know not many have voted but I think the pattern is obvious...unfortunately a poll like this doesn't capture enough of the picture to show a pattern. all of your questions in the post are great and help paint the picture, but the choices on the poll don't capture that. also there is a bias that players who lose are likely to also feel like it was more of a mismatch than if they won. in general this topic is complicated/nuanced to really capture it in a poll.

The latest in our recent string of being screwed by matchmaking. Over the past 3 months this has been a good example of our matchup over 90% of the time. It's been too consistent for too long for this just to be bad luck.

Who thinks TW Match Making works well?

103 Replies

Pengin83
5 years ago
You should probably put some definition around what you mean by “works well.” It’s hard to tell sometimes if it’s a guild not being led well vs underperforming vs poor matchmaking when we win big. My guild usually gets good participation even in losses, so it’s easier to see if we were mismatched or sandbagged in losses.
tiffer72
Rising Veteran
5 years ago
"DarjeloSalas;c-2143822" wrote:
@Scuttlebutt is on the money.

Mismatches happen. I’m not disputing that. But there are definitely guilds out there who are weak at PvP and complain about matchups that they could well win with some decent strategy.

Made an edit, happy to take the feedback! I just want CG to acknowledge
CCyrilS
5 years ago
I appreciate the way you are going about this, and I don't even necessarily think your idea is bad. Your constructive approach is commendable.

That being said, MM is fine and it's better to adapt to it than to expect it to adapt to you.
tiffer72
Rising Veteran
5 years ago
Referring to a quote on my other post:
Anyway, it’s not worth continuing this, because I agree that matchmaking needs changed to match active GP AND number of signed up players +/- 1.

This is what I want! 34 people join in a 50 strong guild, guild has 100mgp, the 34 has 68m
they should be matched against 33, 34, 35 that has 68m GP give or take 2%

This has not happened in our TW with this current guild ever!

Yes, we are adapting and trying to find new ways for defence and offence, we review counters and to be honest we have got close a few times. But I do disagree with the statement MM is fine. But happy to agree to disagree. I am sure time will tell.

I thought a Poll might just help me see if it is the minority impacted or not...
DaarthBrewer
Seasoned Ace
5 years ago
The last two TW saw us matched with guild that had SIGNIFICANTLY stronger players. Last guild had 4 GL on defense (we have none) The prior war had 2 GL. Needless to say we lost both. I have nothing nice to say about the matching in this game.
tiffer72
Rising Veteran
5 years ago
GUILD 49 MEMBERS 111m vs GUILD 47 MEMBERS correction they have 130m (3 Mercs left 19m)
42 Join 36 Join
avg 2,233,521 avg 2,765,957
HMMMMMM
Post edited by Natetiffer at 7:2
tiffer72
Rising Veteran
5 years ago

I know not many have voted but I think the pattern is obvious...
tvsfrink
5 years ago
People that think things aren't working well are more likely to voice their opinion.
NyKynoe
5 years ago
"Natetiffer;c-2153302" wrote:

I know not many have voted but I think the pattern is obvious...

unfortunately a poll like this doesn't capture enough of the picture to show a pattern.

all of your questions in the post are great and help paint the picture, but the choices on the poll don't capture that.

also there is a bias that players who lose are likely to also feel like it was more of a mismatch than if they won.

in general this topic is complicated/nuanced to really capture it in a poll.
tiffer72
Rising Veteran
5 years ago
@Kyno
I know but got to try...

Latest tw the guild had 163m Vs our 110 and the matching gave 15 spots to fill on defence. So we had 41 join they had maybe 30... We never really stood a chance.

Something doesn't feel right to me