"Acrofales;945790" wrote:
"Woodroward;945750" wrote:
"Acrofales;945646" wrote:
"Woodroward;945617" wrote:
4X speed may have made attrition teams inviable, but I think a Chewie(L), K2S0, Fives, Chirrut, Barriss team would still be practically impossible to kill personally. The defense up from Chewie and the hots from Chirrut basically guarantee K2S0 is permataunting. Him and fives to counter attack aoeers. Chewie is basically there for his leader ability and high health. With 2 healing equalizations, 2 cleanses, and auto hots, having high hp characters like these with high defense (thanks Chewie) would be damn near impossible to do any lasting damage to.
That being said, what kind of a hotel doesn't have WiFi these days?
Really? My Zader team would have that team for breakfast. Exceedingly easy team to beat.
I wasn't talking zetas myself, but if we were zeta chirrut and/or Barriss provide enough extra healing to overcome Vader's zeta. hots counteract dots, Chirrut hots heal for a lot zeta'd. Barriss makes people heal when crit, K2S0, Chirrut and Fives are counterattacking Vader for much after his force crush that hit them for very little thanks to Chewie's defense up and K2S0's offense down, and will tick for nothing because they have as many hots as dots. Meanwhile everybody will be forced to attack K2S0 while he has defense up and they have offense down and he's getting a hot and counterattacking them every time your toons go.
Exceedingly easy team to beat? I think you aren't grasping all the ramifications of the group comp I posted. Good luck taking down just K2S0.
I have never faced it, but Chaze teams don't tend to give me much trouble, and Baze is a far better tank than K2 will ever be, so I think I understand it well enough. It's not going to cut it. The team is slow as mud and extremely vulnerable to culling blow and execute. 5s and K2 aren't counterattacking anybody except shoretrooper, who has enough health/prot to eat through about a million of those counterattacks, so /shrug. I suggest you try it out in your arena if you're so convinced it works, but I suspect every single DS team will dispatch it easily with the 4x change. Perhaps before it would've stood a chance to time out some teams.
Actually that's a common misconception. Chirrut K2S0 combo is far more potent than the Chirrut Baze combo.
K2S0 counterattacks 39/40 times unless debuffed. Chirrut cleanses, K2S0 has 100% taunt rate when buffed. Chirrut gives a hot to anyone who takes damage. This means that K2S0 and Chirrut together create an unbreakable taunt/counterattack cycle. You'd have to get the sickest RNG ever to get more than 2 turns targeting someone else before you kill K2S0. Now let's talk about killing K2S0. The offense down he puts up cuts your damage in half right off the bat. The Defense up he will constantly have up thanks to Chewie will take his armor from 31% (50 defense from Chewie lead is equal to 5% armor/resistance) to 46% which will take your 50% damage and cut it to 26%. So all your characters are hitting him for at best 54% of their unimitigated damage, and at worst 26% of it. Not only is he getting hit for little and getting hots whenever you attack him, Barriss is healing him on the spot for a decent amount too whenever he gets crit.
The fact that you think Baze is better than K2S0 with Chirrut shows how little you know about the synergy those two can have when K2S0 doesn't have to share the stage with Baze. It's all the little things in this group stacked together that make it work. You can't use blanket judegements like "Baze's better than K2S0, so I'll destroy your group" against a combo making master (which it may be cocky to call myself, but I'll back those words up). You have to evaluate the group, not the individuals.
You probably know so little about K2S0 that you wouldn't even stack tenacity on him (he's worthless until you get it to at least 60%). So K2S0 is a better taunter and counter attacker in this set up than Baze in any setup. He also has more survivability than him due to his debuffs, and the addition of Barriss. This group is actually built around making K2S0 an unbeatable tank, which is exactly what makes it so formidable.
Yeah Chewie may taunt every now and then and steal some focus, but that just makes it eaier for the healing equalize to top everyone off since two people will be getting the auto heals.
