https://forums.galaxy-of-heroes.starwars.ea.com/discussion/251692/whos-the-most-iconic-star-wars-character/p1Vader is obviously the most recognisable of Star Wars. Why is he so bad? Not only Lord Vader, but also Darth Vader. His culling blade sucks after the nerf, everybody knows it.Lord Vader is the most expensive character we've had so far in SWGOH, why would you make him suck?! What's your problem with dark side characters CG? Please, ask the devs or whoever decides stuff @CG_Doja_Fett_MINI I lost to JML on auto. JML still does a pretty decent job vs both of the newest GLs. SEE sucks on auto and still has a hard time beating them with manual gameplay. That's just stupid!SEE even has a high probability to lose against JML, if he's ability blocked and he neither has Wat's tank tech nor Traya is around. How was he launched as a Jedi counter?! On top of that Rey and Kylo (and probably more) can solo him!Back to LV though. Nobody wants to wait four and a half minutes until stuff happens! He's supposed to be one of the strongest Jedi / Sith / force users in the prequel / original trilogy!There's some serious balancing required!

I'm sorry, you're upset because you can't auto GL vs GL battles?

"MilHanso;c-2320199" wrote:Kenobi beats the crap out of **** of Lord Vader in Ep. III, why it should be different here? :# True. And although I also argued using the story of the movies that has never been important for establishing, who is stronger in the game. Lord Vader is too expensive for what he offers, JML is too cheap for how strong he is.

Darth Vader is clearly the most iconic character. Not anakin in a dressing gown.

"Bl4ckDe4th;d-251869" wrote:Vader is obviously the most recognisable of Star Wars. Why is he so bad? Not only Lord Vader, but also Darth Vader. His culling blade sucks after the nerf, everybody knows it.Because he can’t fight, as we’ve seen in the OT. He won by forfeit versus an old guy and smacked around his son. Awesome.

I don't think Lord Vader is that ba- UNSHACKLED EMOTIONS IS LITERALLY DARTH VADER'S FORCE CRUSH ANIMATION WITH ONLY HIS HAND FACING DOWN INSTEAD OF UP.Joke aside, as much as I don't like anecdotal complaints, LV is one of the rare cases of when these complaints are true to their nature. He is way too expensive for what he offers and he is very lackluster overall. He offers nothing that other Galactic Legends don't already give, but way better. His Ultimate is literally just a stat boost to himself followed by some empowerments to his Abilities that aren't even really worth any mention. His AoE undispellable Ability Block lasts for 1 turn on an Ability that has a 5 turn CD, same as his Ashes of the Republic duration, meaning you only make use of it once per Ultimate use. His Mastery increase is really slow and in no small part is it because "Underestimated" has a set cap they decided not to work around because they just had to tie it to his ultimate charge for some goddamn reason. Why not follow the Ability's Idea of increasing its power with consecutive uses by making it charge more % of his Ultimate with each subsequent use and remove the tie-in with Underestimated, allowing him much more freedom to balance around it. Compare that to Jedi Master Kenobi, his ST special Ability also increases damage on subsequent uses, except its increase is more relevant, it has a 2 turn CD, a set Ultimate Charge amount and it has secondary effects that can also contribute to charging the ultimate without needing a hard cap that limits other parts of his kit in exchange for it.Lord Vader was a cashbait for people to invest into, a rather chewed down bone for the endgame players and the top of the top whales who sit atop an 8M + GP. The way I see it, he as a galactic legend exists solely to make a difference between people who have 5 and people who have 6 Galactic Legends.

Why did you make the most iconic character of all of Star Wars so bad?

19 Replies

kraytthelesser
Seasoned Novice
4 years ago
I'm sorry, you're upset because you can't auto GL vs GL battles?
Bl4ckDe4th88
4 years ago
"KraytTheLesser;c-2319842" wrote:
I'm sorry, you're upset because you can't auto GL vs GL battles?

No, of course not. I have never been part of the auto-button-faction. I have played most of my squad / fleet arena battles manually since I started (six years ago). But JMK can auto all the other GLs, can't he? LV was even more expensive. He should win against "lesser" GLs. He has a support specifically tailored towards him, exactly like JMK. None of the previous GLs have that. Doesn't need to be a clean win on auto, also not 100%, but sure as hell not close to 0%.
scorpio2877
4 years ago
"Bl4ckDe4th;c-2319868" wrote:
"KraytTheLesser;c-2319842" wrote:
I'm sorry, you're upset because you can't auto GL vs GL battles?

No, of course not. I have never been part of the auto-button-faction. I have played most of my squad / fleet arena battles manually since I started (six years ago). But JMK can auto all the other GLs, can't he? LV was even more expensive. He should win against "lesser" GLs. He has a support specifically tailored towards him, exactly like JMK. None of the previous GLs have that. Doesn't need to be a clean win on auto, also not 100%, but sure as hell not close to 0%.

Kenobi beats the crap out of shit of Lord Vader in Ep. III, why it should be different here? :#
Bl4ckDe4th88
4 years ago
"MilHanso;c-2320199" wrote:
Kenobi beats the crap out of **** of Lord Vader in Ep. III, why it should be different here? :#

True. And although I also argued using the story of the movies that has never been important for establishing, who is stronger in the game. Lord Vader is too expensive for what he offers, JML is too cheap for how strong he is.
scorpio2877
4 years ago
"Bl4ckDe4th;c-2320204" wrote:
"MilHanso;c-2320199" wrote:
Kenobi beats the crap out of **** of Lord Vader in Ep. III, why it should be different here? :#

True. And although I also argued using the story of the movies that has never been important for establishing, who is stronger in the game. Lord Vader is too expensive for what he offers, JML is too cheap for how strong he is.

So, next time you should think twice before spending loads on the new shiny toy they release that has absurd requirements. ;)
Bl4ckDe4th88
4 years ago
That‘s clearly the wrong conclusion.
winterwolves
Seasoned Ace
4 years ago
Darth Vader is clearly the most iconic character. Not anakin in a dressing gown.
perfidius44
Seasoned Newcomer
4 years ago
"Bl4ckDe4th;d-251869" wrote:

Vader is obviously the most recognisable of Star Wars. Why is he so bad? Not only Lord Vader, but also Darth Vader. His culling blade sucks after the nerf, everybody knows it.

Because he can’t fight, as we’ve seen in the OT. He won by forfeit versus an old guy and smacked around his son. Awesome.
Bl4ckDe4th88
4 years ago
"Winterwolves;c-2320248" wrote:
Darth Vader is clearly the most iconic character. Not anakin in a dressing gown.

"Starslayer;c-2320262" wrote:
Because he can’t fight, as we’ve seen in the OT. He won by forfeit versus an old guy and smacked around his son. Awesome.

Yeah, okay, I can agree with both of you. Still, Vader was harder to get than JMK and JML (who didn't fight at all, iirc) is too strong in comparison. I don't want to argue about how the game represents the strength of the characters in the movies all that much, we all know Mace Windu isn't nearly represented decently at all.
I know, that there're many more JMK owners than there are LV owners and I could've chosen to go for JMK over LV as well. Despite that, they are not at all equally strong. Maybe the individual characters are comparable, but their respective leaderships are nowhere near close. And that's just wrong.
WattoisSnoke
Seasoned Newcomer
4 years ago
Saying Vader can’t fight (in canon) is one of the stupidest posts I’ve seen on this forum and that’s saying something!