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Santamonica87's avatar
7 years ago

Why doesn't Jyns truncheon strike work like Luke's use the force ability?

So I'm experimenting with tank solo teams and I'm noticing that, against grievous, on the last hit Jyns truncheon strike doesn't work like Luke's use the force ability. Luke's will deal the damage, give grievous 100% tm, and then remove all the tm before grievous is able to take his turn. The wording for the 2 abilities is pretty much the same in that order but jyns seems like it takes the tm BEFORE giving grievous 100% tm instead of right after like Luke's. Can someone explain why?

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  • A little bit lol, but man can you see the walls of text to explain what a skill does, and then what order it does it in lol
  • "GhostTruckin;c-1697889" wrote:
    A little bit lol, but man can you see the walls of text to explain what a skill does, and then what order it does it in lol


    Yeah. Maybe just put it in with kit release?
  • "CCyrilS;c-1697899" wrote:
    "GhostTruckin;c-1697889" wrote:
    A little bit lol, but man can you see the walls of text to explain what a skill does, and then what order it does it in lol


    Yeah. Maybe just put it in with kit release?


    Or just use consistent wording that matches the order of operations?

    Make it so that "deal damage and remove TM" means that damage is dealt then TM is removed and "remove TM and deal damage" means the opposite.

    Doesn't seem too hard...
  • "GhostTruckin;c-1697889" wrote:
    A little bit lol, but man can you see the walls of text to explain what a skill does, and then what order it does it in lol


    I mean, not really...it’s as easy as adding “then”s in where needed. The text should match the build as close as possible. Without looking into the actual build, how would you know that Jyn and CLS function any different?
  • crzydroid's avatar
    crzydroid
    Hero (Retired)
    7 years ago
    Jyn's used to work that way, but she wouldn't steal the tm on a finishing blow. Their way to "fix" this was by dealing damage second. She used to be vital to a pretty good HAAT p1 team before the days of Zylo and CLS and reworked raid Han, but their "fix" unfortunately ruined that comp. I'm not sure whether they have any intention of coming up with a proper solution.

    I've only recently become aware that Yoda deals damage second. That could be one of those wording inconsistencies as he's an old character. I suppose it could be considered a bug. I think Thrawn could be WAI, as even though the dispell is intended to go before the Fracture debuff, I'm guessing they want Fracture to land before any on-damage effects. Even if so, it would still represent a bug in the wording.
  • "crzydroid;c-1697965" wrote:
    Jyn's used to work that way, but she wouldn't steal the tm on a finishing blow. Their way to "fix" this was by dealing damage second. She used to be vital to a pretty good HAAT p1 team before the days of Zylo and CLS and reworked raid Han, but their "fix" unfortunately ruined that comp. I'm not sure whether they have any intention of coming up with a proper solution.

    I've only recently become aware that Yoda deals damage second. That could be one of those wording inconsistencies as he's an old character. I suppose it could be considered a bug. I think Thrawn could be WAI, as even though the dispell is intended to go before the Fracture debuff, I'm guessing they want Fracture to land before any on-damage effects. Even if so, it would still represent a bug in the wording.


    That’s good insight and explains how we got where we are. Ideally they’d flip it back and add a step to check TM before a killing blow, but I think they should at least clarify the text.
  • It makes sense why they changed it but I do agree that the wording should generally match the order... sucks that they changed it though... trying to get cls to always be the last hit is a pain and having a second possible character to do that would be really useful

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