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3mati6
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9 hours ago

Why is Lord vader so bad

I wonder why, despite being the most popular character in Star Wars and the hardest to obtain in SWGOH, lord vader is so weak. The amount of work you have to do to obtain him is enormous and isn’t worth getting slamed by almost everything. I just think that he should be better, given that he has the most fanbase and is so hard to posses. I just don’t see the reason why ea makes him so bad.

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  • Because he didn’t drive sales.  GL Mando will probably suck also and only be useful in the raid only.  

  • terraliv3's avatar
    terraliv3
    Seasoned Newcomer
    8 hours ago

    Lord Vader with his Dark side clone team is an excellent team. this post makes no sense. 

  • 3mati6's avatar
    3mati6
    Newcomer
    8 hours ago

    I dont know about that. There is a lot people complaining about him being weak and the darth vader character is also always being used in promotions of the game. Because in star wars he is easily the most liked character. Almost everyone loves lord vader and even if swgoh community is different there is no way that rey or palpatine has a bigger fanbase. So i still think he would be a great money maker if he wouldnt suck **bleep** in game.

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    3mati6
    Newcomer
    8 hours ago

    Its a great team against teams without gls but almost every gl defeats him. And there is a lot teams without gls that destroy him and cost a lot less grind.

  • 3mati6 wrote:

    I wonder why, despite being the most popular character in Star Wars

    He is?  Lord Vader?  A character that appears in a movie for about 20 minutes?  Hmmm.

    3mati6 wrote:

    the hardest to obtain in SWGOH

    Well...OK.  I see where we're going here.  A fact with a pinch of hyperbole.  The newer the GL, the harder they are to obtain.  As he's 6-11 he's pretty much right in the middle of the GLs.

    3mati6 wrote:

    lord vader is so weak.

    Another pinch...You definitely could argue that before he got his clone update.  Now, he's certainly not weak, but we do keep finding ways of beating him, true.  I'm not sad about where he is in the game, Vader and the clones is a pretty good team.

    3mati6 wrote:

    The amount of work you have to do to obtain him is enormous

    Because he's a GL, with LSTs now...it can't be that hard, can it?  It's not like you don't get your tickets refunded anymore.

    3mati6 wrote:

    getting slamed by almost everything.

    "Any hyperbole with your soup, sir?"

    "Yes, thank you.  I'll say when!"

    3mati6 wrote:

    I just think that he should be better,

    It'd be interesting to know what percentage of the SWGOH population feels the same.  I'm not sure it'd be that high.

    3mati6 wrote:

    given that he has the most fanbase

    "Would you like any hyperbole with your salad?"

    "Yes, I'd definitely like a bit of a squirt.  And when I say little, use the bottle, man!"

    3mati6 wrote:

    and is so hard to posses.

    Back in the day, you could buy these circular bases.  They had a little...knob that stuck out and matched the hole in the figures foot.  They fell over far less with these, but would you buy one for each figure?  Or would you just pose them so that they leaned against a wall or something?

    3mati6 wrote:

    I just don’t see the reason why ea makes him so bad.

    "I just don't see the reason why CG makes him so bad".   EA don't really get involved...even when they should get involved...

    I wonder if you don't have the clones to go with him yet?  Even so, he can be a pain with some tanky fellows.  I'm sure with that Maul cron right now he might also be scary.  Once though, you have the clones and he's not the only GL you're relying on, you might find he's in an OK I place.  

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    3mati6
    Newcomer
    7 hours ago

    When I was talking about him being the most liked character I was refering to anakin/vader which im confident is. About him being new, hondo was released later and is easier to get. And compering his power to the amount of grind you need for him, he is pretty weak. And i didnt know that about ea but ea is very greedy so maybe its for better.

  • harvestmouse1's avatar
    harvestmouse1
    Seasoned Ace
    6 hours ago
    3mati6 wrote:

    When I was talking about him being the most liked character I was refering to anakin/vader which im confident is.

    I wasn't sure that was the case, so I just googled it.  According to Google, you're right!  "Darth Vader and his alter ego Anakin Skywalker is widely considered the most popular and iconic Star Wars character of all time.

    3mati6 wrote:

    About him being new, hondo was released later and is easier to get.

    How did you come to that conclusion? 

    LV has 15 requirements in total. 6 relic 5s, 4 relic 7s, 4 relic 8s and 1 ship.  All the characters are marques apart from Padme which is quite an easy event.

    Hondo has 16 requirements in total.  1 relic 3.  1 relic 5.  2 relic 6s.  4 relic 7s.  3 relic 8s, 3 relic 9s and 1 ship.  2 of the characters are event unlocks.  GAS is a distinctly harder even than Padme.  The pirates have only just become double drop and LST purchasable (I think).   There is 1 extra character and 9 extra relic levels.  3 of which are a much harder to get relic 9.  

    In my eyes Hondo is harder to obtain.

    3mati6 wrote:

    compering his power to the amount of grind you need for him, he is pretty weak.

    Do you have the clones to go with him?  How is your account looking?  The one issue we find is that the power creep (new characters becoming more and more powerful) is extremely noticeable; the older a character gets, the less is their worth.

  • GreenSunRedMoon's avatar
    GreenSunRedMoon
    New Ace
    4 hours ago
    CommanderBarcara wrote:

    GL Mando will probably suck also and only be useful in the raid only.

    if you actually understand the New Republic kits you would realize that he is going to be annoying on defense (with constant ability blocks and cooldown increase from Ward), the fact that the animation takes a long time (and if R5 makes the team then he will assist whenever another ally uses a special and his basic animation is long), daze and stun is not a problem due to Grogu & Anzellans and finally Zeb and by extension Mando are Tanks and likely have crazy evasion (Zeb already has crazy evasion)

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