Wish I never zetaed maul

Haven't noticed anything different with Maul. Good luck.

You should have noticed that daze is applied less than before. It was like a 90% chance before as his potency was considered too high. I used to daze 4-5 up front every march. Now I daze between 1 and 4 most matches.

So if you have Zaul and haven't noticed anything, you must not be paying attention. He is still a great lead but it has changed.

"coeuss;c-1067874" wrote:
You should have noticed that daze is applied less than before. It was like a 90% chance before as his potency was considered too high. I used to daze 4-5 up front every march. Now I daze between 1 and 4 most matches.

So if you have Zaul and haven't noticed anything, you must not be paying attention. He is still a great lead but it has changed.

Aye, it was broken all to heck before. I watched a video of Maul applying Daze to General Kenobi WHILE he had tenacity up.

The only debuffs that should apply through tenacity up are irresistible ones or tenacity down.

It was supremely broken before, now it is WAI.

Got 1st at payout, dropped to 8, then got 1st at payout again. Yep, the update is terrible, zaul is dead.

Lost only 3 times on offense the past month, all 3 to other zaul teams due to the exact same scenario:SA, 5x stun, 5x force drain, 5x slow+dots, 5x daze all before I got a turn.

I have no probs w zQGJ + double zeta R2, the only difference is he now has no problem beating me either.

"sneeekypants;c-1067938" wrote:
Got 1st at payout, dropped to 8, then got 1st at payout again. Yep, the update is terrible, zaul is dead.

Lost only 3 times on offense the past month, all 3 to other zaul teams due to the exact same scenario:SA, 5x stun, 5x force drain, 5x slow+dots, 5x daze all before I got a turn.

I have no probs w zQGJ + double zeta R2, the only difference is he now has no problem beating me either.

If you are saying nothing has changed, then you are wrong. It is a simple fact. If you are saying Zaul is still a great lead that isn't broken, then I agree 100%.

However, Maul lead is decreasing and it is harder to compete than 14-21 days ago. Your shard may be different and changing slower. Older shards are changing a lot. It is more competitive to me. I don't mind, but some that zeta'd Maul recently may have wished they would have waited, as they expected to more easily dominate.

"coeuss;c-1067985" wrote:

"sneeekypants;c-1067938" wrote:
Got 1st at payout, dropped to 8, then got 1st at payout again. Yep, the update is terrible, zaul is dead.

Lost only 3 times on offense the past month, all 3 to other zaul teams due to the exact same scenario:SA, 5x stun, 5x force drain, 5x slow+dots, 5x daze all before I got a turn.

I have no probs w zQGJ + double zeta R2, the only difference is he now has no problem beating me either.

If you are saying nothing has changed, then you are wrong. It is a simple fact. If you are saying Zaul is still a great lead that isn't broken, then I agree 100%.

However, Maul lead is decreasing and it is harder to compete than 14-21 days ago. Your shard may be different and changing slower. Older shards are changing a lot. It is more competitive to me. I don't mind, but some that zeta'd Maul recently may have wished they would have waited, as they expected to more easily dominate.

Lol "isn't broken".

"Woodroward;c-1067890" wrote:

"coeuss;c-1067874" wrote:
You should have noticed that daze is applied less than before. It was like a 90% chance before as his potency was considered too high. I used to daze 4-5 up front every march. Now I daze between 1 and 4 most matches.

So if you have Zaul and haven't noticed anything, you must not be paying attention. He is still a great lead but it has changed.

Aye, it was broken all to heck before. I watched a video of Maul applying Daze to General Kenobi WHILE he had tenacity up.

The only debuffs that should apply through tenacity up are irresistible ones or tenacity down.

It was supremely broken before, now it is WAI.

That was probably before they changed the buffs/debuffs to show the last one applied and there was probably a tenacity down underneath the tenacity up. I've been using Maul to daze since Zader was the Meta and not once did he get Daze to apply through tenacity up. (My god that would've been great though)

Also, it's not that hard to put a little bit of Potency mods on Maul and get him to consistently daze 4 toons again. Most people's tenacity is around 30%, Maul's base Potency from his unique is around 41% and just add like 5-10% potency and you're back to dazing most of the time. If you're dazing 1-4 consistently, you're probably right on the edge of where you want your potency to be at, see if you can put a potency cross on him or just some mods with a few potency secondaries.

"coeuss;c-1067985" wrote:

"sneeekypants;c-1067938" wrote:
Got 1st at payout, dropped to 8, then got 1st at payout again. Yep, the update is terrible, zaul is dead.

Lost only 3 times on offense the past month, all 3 to other zaul teams due to the exact same scenario:SA, 5x stun, 5x force drain, 5x slow+dots, 5x daze all before I got a turn.

I have no probs w zQGJ + double zeta R2, the only difference is he now has no problem beating me either.

If you are saying nothing has changed, then you are wrong. It is a simple fact. If you are saying Zaul is still a great lead that isn't broken, then I agree 100%.

However, Maul lead is decreasing and it is harder to compete than 14-21 days ago. Your shard may be different and changing slower. Older shards are changing a lot. It is more competitive to me. I don't mind, but some that zeta'd Maul recently may have wished they would have waited, as they expected to more easily dominate.

My point is that all these "zaul is dead, worthless, nerfed" whatever threads are ridiculous.

It's like if they can't have a team that auto wins on offense and defense under-modded, geared and starred they are going to whine.

He's just as viable as any team out there and the strongest still par the triple cleanse which requires raid HAAT toon GK and relatively maxed Chaze and DN which are all pretty hard/expensive to obtain.

There are a few more options/competition but zaul is still an overpowered lead especially with the cheese SA and RNG.

Even with R2 and the bug fixes, who is better on offense/defense now other than the 3x cleansers, which is no different than a month ago?

What a relieve! :relieved:

hush hush zmaul

Lol maul still wrecks. For r2 teams put b2 in, his little stealth thing is then pretty much a wasted turn. We've had more than enough time to put a few zetas on Sith. Nih's health down + SA + Zavage can rip tanky guys