Zader in arena and rancor raid after update

I couldn't even get out of phase one without losing a toon just now

Many are assuming that everybody should have known about Zader performing in a way that wasn't intended, prior to purchasing his zeta upgrade. I would argue that a significant percentage of the people that purchased the zeta, don't visit there forums at all, so there would be no way for them to have known there was something wrong. Especially considering the capabilities of the most recently released characters and associated synergies. I would also argue that significantly more people have acquired only one or maybe two zetas since they were released, making them much less common than the echo chamber of these forums might suggest. This makes the decision to buy the Vader zeta much more significant. For these reasons, I think a refund would be appropriate and appreciated and changes that affect the effectiveness of something, to this degree, warrant one.

This seems worthy of an explanation why Vader was handled differently than Barriss - @EA_Jesse @CG_Kozispoon @CG_TopHat

"HorishBathens;907029" wrote:
Many are assuming that everybody should have known about Zader performing in a way that wasn't intended, prior to purchasing his zeta upgrade. I would argue that a significant percentage of the people that purchased the zeta, don't visit there forums at all, so there would be no way for them to have known there was something wrong. Especially considering the capabilities of the most recently released characters and associated synergies. I would also argue that significantly more people have acquired only one or maybe two zetas since they were released, making them much less common than the echo chamber of these forums might suggest. This makes the decision to buy the Vader zeta much more significant. For these reasons, I think a refund would be appropriate and appreciated and changes that affect the effectiveness of something, to this degree, warrant one.

The thing is that we thought he worked "as intended". See Palpatine for example. His leader ability benefits both, him and Vader because they're Empire and Sith. Having Vader and Palpating more chance to remove more TM was, in part, the appealing part of his Zeta. I agree that the TFP bug had to be fixed, but was the Empire+Sith bonus really a bug? Or more importantly, why they didn't told us it was a bug in the first place?

"Darth_Amarth;907072" wrote:

"HorishBathens;907029" wrote:
Many are assuming that everybody should have known about Zader performing in a way that wasn't intended, prior to purchasing his zeta upgrade. I would argue that a significant percentage of the people that purchased the zeta, don't visit there forums at all, so there would be no way for them to have known there was something wrong. Especially considering the capabilities of the most recently released characters and associated synergies. I would also argue that significantly more people have acquired only one or maybe two zetas since they were released, making them much less common than the echo chamber of these forums might suggest. This makes the decision to buy the Vader zeta much more significant. For these reasons, I think a refund would be appropriate and appreciated and changes that affect the effectiveness of something, to this degree, warrant one.

The thing is that we thought he worked "as intended". See Palpatine for example. His leader ability benefits both, him and Vader because they're Empire and Sith.

This.

"Jedi2407;907143" wrote:

"Darth_Amarth;907072" wrote:

"HorishBathens;907029" wrote:
Many are assuming that everybody should have known about Zader performing in a way that wasn't intended, prior to purchasing his zeta upgrade. I would argue that a significant percentage of the people that purchased the zeta, don't visit there forums at all, so there would be no way for them to have known there was something wrong. Especially considering the capabilities of the most recently released characters and associated synergies. I would also argue that significantly more people have acquired only one or maybe two zetas since they were released, making them much less common than the echo chamber of these forums might suggest. This makes the decision to buy the Vader zeta much more significant. For these reasons, I think a refund would be appropriate and appreciated and changes that affect the effectiveness of something, to this degree, warrant one.

The thing is that we thought he worked "as intended". See Palpatine for example. His leader ability benefits both, him and Vader because they're Empire and Sith.

This.

I thought that was a cool feature the two sith lords shared in common since it was in both descriptions and both were released like that, until I didn't.

Quit crying over a bug fix.

We had 7 in our guild solo rancor heroic. P1 was much tougher, but the P2 onward seems easier

"Argarath;907238" wrote:
We had 7 in our guild solo rancor heroic. P1 was much tougher, but the P2 onward seems easier

P2-4 were easier before the bug fix.

Not true, last few heroic rancor raids we were getting 1-2 soloers only out of all our zaders, this time all the zaders got their solo. I based on their feedback coz I do not have zader up and running yet