I never get one. Seriously, I win maybe 1 out of 20 matches. I’m always either dead last or second last. So what’s the deal? I’m supposed to be better than I am? I guess I suck at pvp. Is there any chance I’m ever going to have a shot at winning a match? (WITHOUT PULLING OUT MY CREDIT CARD)I really don’t enjoy grand arena at all. All it does is discourage me. If I lose 19 matches in a row, why am I still matched up against people who curb stomp me every single time? Are they all paying to win and I’m the charity you’re giving them? Why am I consistently matched against players with greater skill than me? Most matchmaking systems eventually account for this. But not here?I don’t understand why the game is designed this way. Even the stupid daily arena allows me to win every other match.. it’s just boring because i only get to use the same team over and over against the same opponent teams over and over. And of course, in my guild there are others who have more powerful toons (DR/malek) but they’re in a lower grand arena division than me (I’m in div 3) and they win basically every match. How is this working as intended?You know, if you let the pay-to-win players have all the fun, eventually the rest of us will leave .. and then the p2w won’t have anyone left to beat.. then they’ll leave too. I honestly enjoy a fair match the most .. but honestly, every single grand arena makes me feel like I’m way out of my league. Why am I continuously matched against players that are able to nuke me? Not fun.

They should just make a continuous league system out of it. Winners move up, losers go down. Would be the only way to actually make it fair. This way you could watch Ahnald in his champions league match ups while we are in the sunday league ;-)

Has it ever occured to you that something is wrong with your roster, modding, strategy, the way you use your characters on offense or all of the above? No offense, but blaming it on not spending enough is a not exactly a valid excuse. It's highly doubtful that all your opponents just outspend you, especially when you are in division 3 which is not exactly whale territory. You do get matched with similarly performing players over the course of a one month-long GAC event, since you are matched with players within the same league (and the better ones are usually in aurodium by week 4). If you can still barely win a match even then, it's hardly the fault of matchmaking, even less so the issue of one's spending tendencies.

"RandomSithLord;c-2010985" wrote:You do get matched with similarly performing players over the course of a one month-long GAC event.And that is just a bad system because you get penalized for performing well without giving you better rewards in the next round with harder matchups

"Zippy_3000;c-2010989" wrote:"RandomSithLord;c-2010985" wrote:Has it ever occured to you that something is wrong with your roster, modding, strategy, the way you use your characters on offense or all of the above? No offense, but blaming it on not spending enough is a not exactly a valid excuse. It's highly doubtful that all your opponents just outspend you, especially when you are in division 3 which is not exactly whale territory. You do get matched with similarly performing players over the course of a one month-long GAC event, since you are matched with players within the same league (and the better ones are usually in aurodium by week 4). If you can still barely win a match even then, it's hardly the fault of matchmaking, even less so the issue of one's spending tendencies.Dude, I said I’m out skilled. I mentioned the pay to win thing because it IS a factor, but I’m not saying that’s why I’m losing.The perks and disadvantages of playing casually. It's nice that your daily routine is not half-dependent on a mobile game, but on the other hand, the higher your GP, the less likely it is to face completely casual and/or generally out-of-touch players when it comes to strategy. As I said above, in week 3/4 you are matched with players of similar win/loss ratio. If you lost all your matches at that point, chances are they have done the same. It is only this fair the matchmaking can get.If you want a win, at some point you need to do a minimal amount of research instead of just waiting to fight another player that is even less interested in getting familiar with different game mechanics.

"Zippy_3000;c-2010989" wrote:"RandomSithLord;c-2010985" wrote:Has it ever occured to you that something is wrong with your roster, modding, strategy, the way you use your characters on offense or all of the above? No offense, but blaming it on not spending enough is a not exactly a valid excuse. It's highly doubtful that all your opponents just outspend you, especially when you are in division 3 which is not exactly whale territory. You do get matched with similarly performing players over the course of a one month-long GAC event, since you are matched with players within the same league (and the better ones are usually in aurodium by week 4). If you can still barely win a match even then, it's hardly the fault of matchmaking, even less so the issue of one's spending tendencies.Dude, I said I’m out skilled. I mentioned the pay to win thing because it IS a factor, but I’m not saying that’s why I’m losing. This is a casual game. I’m a casual player. I don’t have day and night to study strats or never ending cash to buy mods and gear.. I’m CASUAL. Can’t I be matched against other players at a similar skill level? I win one out of 20 rounds. I have never actually won a match. It’s not very fun to me. I would just not bother, but I need the stupid currency for gear. If you want to win that badly then stop being casual perhaps? If you don't want to lose all the time then maybe it's time for you to put some effort into it. And if you're casual and don't care much, then just join, set defenses, do nothing and get free rewards. Sounds reasonable or not? Why do people always expect everything handed to them on a silver platter... No pain, no gain. Simple as that.

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N0oTry
5 years ago
"Voltarc;c-2018797" wrote:
"No_Try;c-2018748" wrote:

Division and league provides the hard caps the mm algo works on. But the algo is the main thing that decides your pools. In your case algo will match you with players within your league+division who has very close top 80 toon gp as you and it doesn't care who has which toons.

Ok thx that would help explain the less insane matchmaking. (Still bad but not as bad). Does not explain the interface for showing rewards. Why break it down by league if your not going to change the rewards for league? Is this something they might adjust? I wish they would throw some sort of bone to those who ACTUALLY collect/7 star everything! Or a match were you use the more obscure less used characters....

They may adjust both mm and rewards structure. These are mentioned in the announcement posts. They did an mm adjustment in between full test and first gac. There is supposedly also invisible parameters in mm which they dialed up the weight of at that time, but I haven't seen any effect of it before or after (it seems completely random besides top 80 almost perfectly matching). I bet they want to make an increasing reward structure but imagine the backlash.
SpazmaticPanda
5 years ago
Hey, you mind letting me see your roster and mods so I can give you suggestions on how you can better defeat your enemies in your grand arena! message me back if you can send me a pic of your roster. don't worry, ill help you get your first 1st place in grand arena.
Waquira
5 years ago
"SpazmaticPanda;c-2020989" wrote:
Hey, you mind letting me see your roster and mods so I can give you suggestions on how you can better defeat your enemies in your grand arena! message me back if you can send me a pic of your roster. don't worry, ill help you get your first 1st place in grand arena.

"Zippy_3000;c-2017410" wrote:
I shared my roster with someone here who posted and he helped me out. So some good has come out of this.

... But feel free to help out as well :-)
zippy_3001
5 years ago
Let me first express that I appreciate those who are offering to help.

If you are so inclined, here is my profile:

https://swgoh.gg/p/854876925/
thecarterologis
5 years ago
I think I've found the problem. You're roster really isn't that dissimilar to mine, slightly more advanced in some areas, slightly less in others. The difference is, as usual, in mods. You seriously lack the speed required, and don't have set on to compliment the characters you have. For instance your JKR probably hits like a truck, but you want him to be the fastest on the field, not with 18 speed added to him. My recommendation would be to start throwing crystals at mods rather than gear, because that is genuinely such an important factor, and it allows you to have good mods with sets that fit, whereas if you were to just speed up Revan as much as possible, he would lose all those other bonuses. Get mods as much as possible, upgrade them, if they have speed, keep them, if not sell them, only buy them from the store if they are exactly what you are looking for, that sort of thing. it's not fun, but it's necessary, and very effective, speed is king in this game.
zippy_3001
5 years ago
I don’t find my JKR team is a problem .. I can beat most teams with him - except for DR/DM- where I have no chance.

My problem is/was my GA matchups.. as I’m consistently matched against players who have DR/DM .. That means by default they also have the JKR team I have + more. But yes, mods mods mods mods mods right?
sevshazam
5 years ago
I doubt we will see a change in Matchmaking any time soon. Idk what division you are in, but the lower your division I assume the bigger gap in rosters depending on how someone farms. If you'd like some advice or help feel free to message me. I usually finish first in GAC and am basically f2p aside from a 20 dollar purchase every couple months.

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