Obviously speed is a huge stat in this game. Having a character with an ability to automatically go first, and push his team to go first is just as huge. Having a set of g12 clones take out a Darth Revan squad when well modded with a massive amount of speed highlights a major issue with the strategy and balance of the game. I am not writing this to complain about anything, if that is the desired impact then I'm just going to expedite and push to unlock clones even moreso now. I assume two things:#1 - We don't have the 501st Anakin yet, and that could be a huge boost to this team. #2 - Shaak Ti is intended to lead other clones as a secondary squad with future clone marquees released, Ki-Adi-Mundi possibly, we'll see. I assume the top teams in the game are supposed to be (in no specific order), JKR, Sith Empire, Padme lead GR, GG or Nute Separatists.I assume the second tier strongest squads are intended to be Clones, Bugs, etc. Long story short, I don't think Shaak Ti was supposed to work this well with the 501st, but I'd like to ask the developers, is this working as intended or should we expect a change to her leadership to remove the synergy with 501st squad?Reference: Ahnalds video.Q: How strong are you aiming to get the clone reworks when they come?A: Tophat - That's a really difficult question to answer because their power will change with time. You'll just have to wait and see.

Everyone knew Darth Revan and Malak would get countered after the 2nd run.Its probably WIA but who knows.

Lol.. your DR team suddenly gets countered finally after months and it’s a question of whether-or-not the reworks were meant to beat your team.

Clones can beat DR but they struggle with DR+Malak. There are already plenty of teams that can beat DR without malak.

"nabokovfan;d-212674" wrote:Reference: Ahnalds video.Lost me here. YouTubers just make everything seem sensational so you'll keep liking and subscribing.If ShaakClones end up being meta, fine. Let people that G12'd clones ages ago and then had to watch them collect dust for two years have their moment in the sun.

"Jarvind;c-1950469" wrote:"nabokovfan;d-212674" wrote:Reference: Ahnalds video.Lost me here. YouTubers just make everything seem sensational so you'll keep liking and subscribing.If ShaakClones end up being meta, fine. Let people that G12'd clones ages ago and then had to watch them collect dust for two years have their moment in the sun. Don't tease me!

Are Clones working as expected? (Clones vs. DR)

nabokovfan87
6 years ago
"SemiGod;c-1950277" wrote:
Everyone knew Darth Revan and Malak would get countered after the 2nd run.

Its probably WIA but who knows.

You would think so... Perhaps Padme Anakin is a replacement for Padme squad, and old Anakin goes to the clones as a 501st? I'm expecting general Skywalker to be the 501st lead.
crazyhynter
New Spectator
6 years ago
Even without Shaak Ti, with 3 501st clones you get +12% bonus speed. I am too lazy so I'll just round it down to 10%. Assuming your Rex is at 300 speed(for reference Rex's base speed is 160 vs BSF's 156, so getting at least 300 isn't that impressive) with 10% bonus speed you are looking at 330 speed at the beginning of the battle. The majority of top 10 players in each shard should have no problem in getting him around 310 speed which will easily make him go before most of the DRevans. So Shaak Ti is mostly there for the other bonuses, not the speed(though the bonus speed still helps).
Da_Bauers
New Spectator
6 years ago
Let's not forget that Shaak Ti is also, I believe, tied for 2nd fastest base speed in the entire game. So there's that too.
nabokovfan87
6 years ago
"Crazylazyguy;c-1950440" wrote:
Even without Shaak Ti, with 3 501st clones you get +12% bonus speed. I am too lazy so I'll just round it down to 10%. Assuming your Rex is at 300 speed(for reference Rex's base speed is 160 vs BSF's 156, so getting at least 300 isn't that impressive) with 10% bonus speed you are looking at 330 speed at the beginning of the battle. The majority of top 10 players in each shard should have no problem in getting him around 310 speed which will easily make him go before most of the DRevans. So Shaak Ti is mostly there for the other bonuses, not the speed(though the bonus speed still helps).

That's what I'm thinking... They didn't intend for this interaction to happen. They didn't do the math. If they did, by all means then it's a really cheap way to get to the top of arena. I'm curious what the designers would have to say to the question.
nabokovfan87
6 years ago
"Lachie_1;c-1950445" wrote:
Lol.. your DR team suddenly gets countered finally after months and it’s a question of whether-or-not the reworks were meant to beat your team.

I'm still running JKR. Not really an issue of my roster. I don't have the mods to be in the top in arena. It's a question of design, not about my team losing.
nabokovfan87
6 years ago
"Jarvind;c-1950469" wrote:

"nabokovfan;d-212674" wrote:

Reference: Ahnalds video.

Lost me here. YouTubers just make everything seem sensational so you'll keep liking and subscribing.

If ShaakClones end up being meta, fine. Let people that G12'd clones ages ago and then had to watch them collect dust for two years have their moment in the sun.

I found this as well from the Q&A on 8/1:

Q: How strong are you aiming to get the clone reworks when they come?

A: Tophat - That's a really difficult question to answer because their power will change with time. You'll just have to wait and see.

This is the video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VNICnxTytl4
Ikky2win
6 years ago
Its a good question and one of the reasons I haven't zetaed Shaak Ti OR geared up Clone Sargent/Cody. I hate this interim time where you don't know what to do. I don't want to g12 Sargent, for example, only to have him be useless in a week when they release a new Anakin or Kenobi. I don't want to zeta Shaak Ti only to find out she's not going to be the leader but rather just a 5th member of the squad. I mean in GAC I placed Shaak Ti (g11, 5*, no zetas) lead, Echo (g12), Rex (g12/zetaed), Fives (g12 double zeta) and...WAMPA on defense because I don't want to waste mats on a character that may not get used.
Mephisto_style
6 years ago
I think a g11 Jawa team can kill your g13 Shaak Ti clones.
nabokovfan87
6 years ago
@Kyno Can you move this back to general section, I'm not sure why it was moved?
nabokovfan87
6 years ago
"VonZant;c-1950880" wrote:
Because its about characters?

"Character and arena strategy" would pertain to either character strategy or arena strategy. This topic isn't arena specific or related to a strategy of using a character in X composition or X squad. The question posted was whether or not the rework has had the intended consequences in the squad we saw in the video.

There's a lot of random threads that are either posted here or moved here. I really don't understand the logic of why this was moved.