Beating Chaze

"Jetlife;961979" wrote:
Try your Nihilus. His dispell, cd raiser, and his insta kill (kill chirrut or baze) will help you tremendously. It's the skill set in this case that will let you win. So don't worry about gear on offense with Nihilus if he is 9+.
You want to shock baze and if it won't get cleansed than go for chirrut. Only attack chirrut if baze has shock and will not taunt. Don't attack baze's health if he is just going to heal from his hots. Get the other enemy protection bar some. Daze will help you much so chirrut and baze wine counter or gain tm from Rex lead.
Ability block with Vader and raise cd with Nihilus and you can win.
At start try to debuff with basic. Let enemy chirrut cleanse and than debuff with another again. Than let Rex cleanse and after tenacity up wears off is when you should start using your cd with debuffs.
Don't waste your debuffs if it is going to get cleansed next round or if enemy has tenacity up.
Good luck sith rule!
Btw my preferred team is zaul/Zavage/zooku/sid(almost zeta!)/Nihilus. Teams absolutely destroys triple cleanse teams.
Rex/chaze/gk/Nihilus = no problem

Good advice. My g9 Nihilus is just a tad too squishy and/or slow still, but that'll be fixed soon, and this strategy is really good.

That's one helluva squad. I'm planning on a very similar team long term, Zaul, Zooku, Zid, Zihilus, Zylo. Essentially an all sith zeta team. Because Kylo doesn't count, he's basically a pretaunter, and if the opposing team doesnt make sure to keep him ability blocked/stunned at all times he'll wipe out all their progress and do massive damage in the process. So far, this design has worked really nicely, so with the zeta I don't think I'll be disappointed.

I run a Chaze team but at the same time being anti-chaze I'd say. B2 is great but you need more imo. Boba is great and is the one toon I hate facing. And palpatine's shock is effective until he can use his special.

Nihilus at g10 should be in your lineup. Mod him with protection primaries and health mods, he should be able to get an annihilate in to eliminate one of the two. To what others have said, Boba and/or boba work great too.

FWIW, I run Zaul, Zylo, Vader, EP and DN and have no issues taking Chaze teams down. All it takes is a couple of stuns from Zylo or EP to slow down Chirrut. Also, Zauls daze stops all those counters.

"Ikenstein86;962020" wrote:

"Jetlife;961979" wrote:
Try your Nihilus. His dispell, cd raiser, and his insta kill (kill chirrut or baze) will help you tremendously. It's the skill set in this case that will let you win. So don't worry about gear on offense with Nihilus if he is 9+.
You want to shock baze and if it won't get cleansed than go for chirrut. Only attack chirrut if baze has shock and will not taunt. Don't attack baze's health if he is just going to heal from his hots. Get the other enemy protection bar some. Daze will help you much so chirrut and baze wine counter or gain tm from Rex lead.
Ability block with Vader and raise cd with Nihilus and you can win.
At start try to debuff with basic. Let enemy chirrut cleanse and than debuff with another again. Than let Rex cleanse and after tenacity up wears off is when you should start using your cd with debuffs.
Don't waste your debuffs if it is going to get cleansed next round or if enemy has tenacity up.
Good luck sith rule!
Btw my preferred team is zaul/Zavage/zooku/sid(almost zeta!)/Nihilus. Teams absolutely destroys triple cleanse teams.
Rex/chaze/gk/Nihilus = no problem

Good advice. My g9 Nihilus is just a tad too squishy and/or slow still, but that'll be fixed soon, and this strategy is really good.

That's one helluva squad. I'm planning on a very similar team long term, Zaul, Zooku, Zid, Zihilus, Zylo. Essentially an all sith zeta team. Because Kylo doesn't count, he's basically a pretaunter, and if the opposing team doesnt make sure to keep him ability blocked/stunned at all times he'll wipe out all their progress and do massive damage in the process. So far, this design has worked really nicely, so with the zeta I don't think I'll be disappointed.

I've thought about the zylo 5th as well. Like I said, I ran gk and because he wasn't a sith, he gets no extra dodge and gets demolished by all the other squads of maul and his crew. Even with 100k health protection gk only gets to go maybe 1 out of 3 battles. Also you don't really need a non-sith(pretaunt) because if you have dooku(fastest character) he will go first and be only one out of stealth and essentially be your taunter. He will keep regaining protection back. It's very fun!!
Also Zavage makes the team so much better. He is a complete beast and makes this team much much harder to beat.
http://imgur.com/Bam86vF
http://imgur.com/nSPNN0L

I've thought about the zylo 5th as well. Like I said, I ran gk and because he wasn't a sith, he gets no extra dodge and gets demolished by all the other squads of maul and his crew. Even with 100k health protection gk only gets to go maybe 1 out of 3 battles. Also you don't really need a non-sith(pretaunt) because if you have dooku(fastest character) he will go first and be only one out of stealth and essentially be your taunter. He will keep regaining protection back. It's very fun!!
Also Zavage makes the team so much better. He is a complete beast and makes this team much much harder to beat.
http://imgur.com/Bam86vF
http://imgur.com/nSPNN0L


Very nice. Good to know the Dooku zeta is that effective. I was planning on going with him next before Kylo. Interesting about GK in this team. I've seen a lot of people go with that. Every time I face him unless he's got yoda and qui gonn to keep him clean, he just spends the whole fight stunned and gives up the taunt enough to take out other toons first. That problem exists with Kylo too, but he tanks effectively enough, and I usually get at least one outrage, which I think will be a game changer with the protection recovery. If not I may consider sith trooper in the mix somewhere. Good to know about Zavage as well.

"mlb1399;962039" wrote:
FWIW, I run Zaul, Zylo, Vader, EP and DN and have no issues taking Chaze teams down. All it takes is a couple of stuns from Zylo or EP to slow down Chirrut. Also, Zauls daze stops all those counters.

Nice, that's probably the most readily achievable lineup change for me. Do sub in Nihilus in and out situationally or is he useful across the board? Also, heard any feedback on his unique zeta? It's extra dots for sure, but Im curious to see how all those health downs accumulating change a fight

I never sub him out. I've thought about tinkering with a Zaul, EP, DN and Chaze team but I love Zylo too much. I thought about giving second zeta to DN but thought Zaul tm gain was too important to stay #1 in arena. Next will be Zader, then maybe a Jedi and then DN.

I had some bad RNG vs a Zader team recently and they wiped out most of my team besides him. He took down Zader, Boba, TFP and B2. All those Zader dots made him almost unstoppable. His speed with bonus must have been 320-350.

Put zeta on Kylo Ren, and attack the chaze teams with him solo.

No lies.

"Shaunyvee;962735" wrote:
Put zeta on Kylo Ren, and attack the chaze teams with him solo.

No lies.

Solo? Like solo solo... really? Not being snarky, just clarifying, you mean Zylo alone, with no other toons in the squad? Mind blowing, but that would be awesome to take one of those teams out with a crazed Kylo

"Ikenstein86;962737" wrote:

"Shaunyvee;962735" wrote:
Put zeta on Kylo Ren, and attack the chaze teams with him solo.

No lies.

Solo? Like solo solo... really? Not being snarky, just clarifying, you mean Zylo alone, with no other toons in the squad? Mind blowing, but that would be awesome to take one of those teams out with a crazed Kylo

Then drop like a stone on defence.