Boba Fett's Unique question (Payout)

That defence stat says 0% for all characters. Ignore it.

"Defence penetration" is an umbrella term that covers armour penetration (using physical damage) and resistance penetration (special damage).

All Boba's attacks are physical damage, so look at the armour penetration you have and times that by 200%.

Before I'm tagged, I've added it to the list of stuff for the FAQ.

Frustration mechanics

"Ralakili0383;c-2283031" wrote:
Kyno Boba's ability does not add to defense penetration value because 200% of 0% is still 0% defense penetration.

If what UdalCuain said is true then Boba's ability is poorly worded. An easy fix would then be to say that his payout increases armor penetration by 200% of his current armor penetration. Simply replace defense penetration with armor penetration.

This topic has just been discussed in the Scoundrel Discord and confusion is pretty big. Would be nice if we could get some clarification and an in-game fix of the wording.

No "If" about it:


They won't reword it. Defense Penetration is the term used game-wide to include both Armour and Resistance Penetration (see Defence Penetration Up/Down, Boba's Payout, T3's unique amongst others), and any skill that affects Defense Penetration will increase/decrease both.

"Ralakili0383;c-2284674" wrote:

"SparkyBurns;c-2283888" wrote:
To sum this up and make it easy on everyone: it is worth it and adds a lot of damage potential. It's a semantics issue

Then it shouldn't be difficult for CG to fix. After all, it seems to be just poor wording.

It's not poor wording. It's a lack of comprehension. Literally every ability that affects Armour Penetration also affects Resistance Penetration and vice versa. Combining them both under the term "Defence Penetration", though it can sometimes cause confusion, allows for more concise ability descriptions. Boba gains no benefit from his increased Resistance Penetration, but it is still increased. As said above, this is not something that needs reworded, but perhaps added to the in-game glossary of status effects etc we've always wanted.

He only has physical defense penetration, that is listed below the physical crit chance

"Blubcop;c-2283007" wrote:
He only has physical defense penetration, that is listed below the physical crit chance

No, that stat is called "Armor penetration". His unique says +200% of his defense penetration, not of his armor penetration (or resistance penetration). If it is 200% of his current armor penetration then the ability is worded incorrectly and should be fixed.

@Kyno Could you check with the devs please?

"UdalCuain;c-2283010" wrote:
That defence stat says 0% for all characters. Ignore it.

"Defence penetration" is an umbrella term that covers armour penetration (using physical damage) and resistance penetration (special damage).

All Boba's attacks are physical damage, so look at the armour penetration you have and times that by 200%.

Before I'm tagged, I've added it to the list of stuff for the FAQ.

So what's even the point of having the Defense Penetration stat if its zero'd for everyone

"Magruffin;c-2283015" wrote:

"UdalCuain;c-2283010" wrote:
That defence stat says 0% for all characters. Ignore it.

"Defence penetration" is an umbrella term that covers armour penetration (using physical damage) and resistance penetration (special damage).

All Boba's attacks are physical damage, so look at the armour penetration you have and times that by 200%.

Before I'm tagged, I've added it to the list of stuff for the FAQ.

So what's even the point of having the Defense Penetration stat if its zero'd for everyone

Because abilities like Boba's can add to it. Its still used in battle, even if at this time we have no base value.

@Kyno Boba's ability does not add to defense penetration value because 200% of 0% is still 0% defense penetration.

If what @UdalCuain said is true then Boba's ability is poorly worded. An easy fix would then be to say that his payout increases armor penetration by 200% of his current armor penetration. Simply replace defense penetration with armor penetration.

This topic has just been discussed in the Scoundrel Discord and confusion is pretty big. Would be nice if we could get some clarification and an in-game fix of the wording.

To sum this up and make it easy on everyone: it is worth it and adds a lot of damage potential. It's a semantics issue