Bosk have Taunt Duration after Trawn's Fracture!!!

i agree, you need to outspeed him, and anyway they are many more teams to counter Bossk team

"DarjeloSalas;c-2245414" wrote:

Fracture is a special ability, not a unique ability.

This ability only Traun has. And it's not considered unique?

"Ger4sim;c-2245460" wrote:

"DarjeloSalas;c-2245414" wrote:

Fracture is a special ability, not a unique ability.

This ability only Traun has. And it's not considered unique?

It's a Special ability. It's labelled "Special", and requires a player action to use. "Unique" abilities operate in the background.

This is all working as intended. Taunt is dispelled, then immediately regained. This happens before the buff immunity of fracture happens.

Fracture, and the taunts of Old Ben and Bossk goes something like:
1) Thrawn uses Fracture
2) Taunt Dispelled
3) Taunt immediately regained. In the case of Old Ben it's if it is the first time he has lost the Taunt, for Bossk it's if the weakest enemy still has protection
4) Damage from the Fracture ability
5) Buff immunity and TMR from the Fracture debuff is applied

You can see from the order of operations that the Taunt is regained before Buff Immunity is placed. Damage might be higher or lower on the order of operations, I can never remember where it comes in, but that's irrelevant to this discussion.

"Ger4sim;c-2245460" wrote:

"DarjeloSalas;c-2245414" wrote:

Fracture is a special ability, not a unique ability.

This ability only Traun has. And it's not considered unique?

"Special" abilities and "Unique" abilities have their own in-game definition. Specials are abilities that can be used in battle that aren't a basic. Uniques are passives that are always active as long as the character is alive (in battle, they're represented by a little square above the selectable abilities, alongside any leader ability that might be active).

"chionophile;c-2245524" wrote:

"Ger4sim;c-2245460" wrote:

"DarjeloSalas;c-2245414" wrote:

Fracture is a special ability, not a unique ability.

This ability only Traun has. And it's not considered unique?

"Special" abilities and "Unique" abilities have their own in-game definition. Specials are abilities that can be used in battle that aren't a basic. Uniques are passives that are always active as long as the character is alive (in battle, they're represented by a little square above the selectable abilities, alongside any leader ability that might be active).

I think OP is trying to say that Fracture is unique to Thrawn in the colloquial sense. The reasoning seems to be that A Very Special Debuff should trump everything else, such as a common taunt.

To OP I would say that is most definitely not the case, nor is it an expectation, and the order of operations has already been explained.

This ability only Traun has. And it's not considered unique?

I think OP is trying to say that Fracture is unique to Thrawn in the colloquial sense. The reasoning seems to be that A Very Special Debuff should trump everything else, such as a common taunt.

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"Ger4sim;c-2245555" wrote:

This ability only Traun has. And it's not considered unique?

I think OP is trying to say that Fracture is unique to Thrawn in the colloquial sense. The reasoning seems to be that A Very Special Debuff should trump everything else, such as a common taunt.

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I noticed you've cut off the part of that quote that tells you that you are wrong.

"Ger4sim;c-2245555" wrote:

This ability only Traun has. And it's not considered unique?

I think OP is trying to say that Fracture is unique to Thrawn in the colloquial sense. The reasoning seems to be that A Very Special Debuff should trump everything else, such as a common taunt.

Thank God! There is one person who understands me!

Okay. Being unique to a character is essentially meaningless. Bossk and Old Ben have abilities that reduce the effectiveness of this ability, as does Nest. BSF can nullify it completely. It's just how the game works.

(Also, unless you word it carefully, Unique is what you might call a reserved word for swgoh. Use with caution, or you'll have this same conversation again.)

"Ger4sim;c-2245460" wrote:

"DarjeloSalas;c-2245414" wrote:

Fracture is a special ability, not a unique ability.

This ability only Traun has. And it's not considered unique?

"Ger4sim;c-2245555" wrote:

This ability only Traun has. And it's not considered unique?

I think OP is trying to say that Fracture is unique to Thrawn in the colloquial sense. The reasoning seems to be that A Very Special Debuff should trump everything else, such as a common taunt.

Thank God! There is one person who understands me!

.... lol just stop it man. Also, don't use Thrawn to counter this team if your Thrawn is slower than bossk.