Buff Windu?

In many games there is always a version of the same character on the other faction.

The problem here is that the arena fights are neutral so that balance becomes more difficult.

Definitely a good idea though if we had separate factions.

I can't for the life of me understand why the devs went the route they did with mace. His is a straight up offensive powerhouse in the lore and they go with a tank?!?!?

I faced a 6* Windu earlier in GW and he hit fairly hard. Was critting for 3.5k with his second ability and he's tanky.

After reading all those threads about Windu i thought they 'might' buff him in the next upgrade so i decided to farm him in the cantina but no luck with that so far. My drop rate is like 1/10 or worse and that caused some second thoughts. When i was farming Kylo my rates were 1/3 or so. Do you guys also feel like his drop rates are low or is just me??

#fixpoorwindu

Thread over

"revengeoftheewok;37454" wrote:

"Wispsi;37449" wrote:
Ah I guess you still have not read over what you were actually writing rofl...ah well let the cognitive dissonance role on.

Yes but asajj's aoe can also reset, whilst giving her buff. Mace uses his once...that's his entire load blown and If you use it purely for damage you are wasting the main part of the ability. Which asajj can use seperately.

And her dispel also heals, which is often a good thing when going last. Mace is also a very slow character.

I don't k ow what game you have been playing but compared to other characters in this game he is completely ignorable and would still be a weaker choice for Jedi synergy teams. And against 1shot monster teams? He will do what?? His damage will be nothing compared to theirs and his tankiness irrelevant. Without a speed buff especially he is a slow character, chewie goes before him.

Really who cares how tanky somebody is if here is no reason to attack him. Sure you can maybe make some use of him on attack occasionally and hope the ai decides to go for him on the random and and waste a couple of attacks (so...like a load of other characters, that are also way more useful)...but really you can attack with so many different things it makes no diff, defense is what really matters. He will just be awasted spot, with a little aoe damage that could be an actual useful person.

Just for the record, I count simply having Sid as anti Jedi, sure it is winnable but it is much harder when he dodges 6+ attacks in a row compared to any other kind of fight. Some teams also have dooku, and frankly in the right kind of team dooku is not a bad choice and his control against Jedi can be truly fearsome.

"His normal attack will also hit far higher with his defensive buff. Asaj's advantage will be buff on kill and refresh."

I think the person who can't read is you. I mean you do have a terrible grasp for the English language. You might want to read what other people write before embarrassing yourself AGAIN.

Her dispel heals? LOL, it heals for like what? 400? Her dispel also is a HUGE ai disadvantage. On defense, you waste a turn debuffing, while Mace wastes 0 turn and will always be attacking.

Of course he's ignorable right now, because he hits FAR lower than other characters as a single target hitter, and you've also never faced a geared 7 star one. But if you had AOE, he'll have the hardest AOE non buffed/crit hit besides IG, that's really not that bad. LMFAO @ little aoe damage. Again just like the 2 star leia's youved faced, you're basing mace's little damage on 2 star mace's you fought. I've been hit 2k by a 4 star mace with his special with no crit no buff or anything. A 7 star mace will probably hit 2.5k, 2.5k aoe without any crit is really good.

LOL, sid dies in like 2 hits. Only noobs struggle against sid, I thought he was annoying too when I was at a lower level. His damage is mediocre and the only thing that's good on him is immunity, but most teams don't even run heals, or 1 heals at MOST, so he really isn't that big of a threat. I've never missed sid 6 times in a row, and I run 2 jedis. Everyone who cries about missing sid all the time probably missed him like 3 times or so and doubles that number.

Not really sure what either of your points are, but I'm going to end it like this: I have a 7* mace windu who does terrible damage and has useless skills, we need to rework this poor jedi master ASAP or condemn him to a life of uselessness.

As @Abyss added, thread over.

"revengeoftheewok;37498" wrote:

"FakeRobbo;37488" wrote:

"revengeoftheewok;37454" wrote:

"Wispsi;37449" wrote:
Ah I guess you still have not read over what you were actually writing rofl...ah well let the cognitive dissonance role on.

Yes but asajj's aoe can also reset, whilst giving her buff. Mace uses his once...that's his entire load blown and If you use it purely for damage you are wasting the main part of the ability. Which asajj can use seperately.

And her dispel also heals, which is often a good thing when going last. Mace is also a very slow character.

I don't k ow what game you have been playing but compared to other characters in this game he is completely ignorable and would still be a weaker choice for Jedi synergy teams. And against 1shot monster teams? He will do what?? His damage will be nothing compared to theirs and his tankiness irrelevant. Without a speed buff especially he is a slow character, chewie goes before him.

Really who cares how tanky somebody is if here is no reason to attack him. Sure you can maybe make some use of him on attack occasionally and hope the ai decides to go for him on the random and and waste a couple of attacks (so...like a load of other characters, that are also way more useful)...but really you can attack with so many different things it makes no diff, defense is what really matters. He will just be awasted spot, with a little aoe damage that could be an actual useful person.

Just for the record, I count simply having Sid as anti Jedi, sure it is winnable but it is much harder when he dodges 6+ attacks in a row compared to any other kind of fight. Some teams also have dooku, and frankly in the right kind of team dooku is not a bad choice and his control against Jedi can be truly fearsome.

"His normal attack will also hit far higher with his defensive buff. Asaj's advantage will be buff on kill and refresh."

I think the person who can't read is you. I mean you do have a terrible grasp for the English language. You might want to read what other people write before embarrassing yourself AGAIN.

Her dispel heals? LOL, it heals for like what? 400? Her dispel also is a HUGE ai disadvantage. On defense, you waste a turn debuffing, while Mace wastes 0 turn and will always be attacking.

Of course he's ignorable right now, because he hits FAR lower than other characters as a single target hitter, and you've also never faced a geared 7 star one. But if you had AOE, he'll have the hardest AOE non buffed/crit hit besides IG, that's really not that bad. LMFAO @ little aoe damage. Again just like the 2 star leia's youved faced, you're basing mace's little damage on 2 star mace's you fought. I've been hit 2k by a 4 star mace with his special with no crit no buff or anything. A 7 star mace will probably hit 2.5k, 2.5k aoe without any crit is really good.

LOL, sid dies in like 2 hits. Only noobs struggle against sid, I thought he was annoying too when I was at a lower level. His damage is mediocre and the only thing that's good on him is immunity, but most teams don't even run heals, or 1 heals at MOST, so he really isn't that big of a threat. I've never missed sid 6 times in a row, and I run 2 jedis. Everyone who cries about missing sid all the time probably missed him like 3 times or so and doubles that number.

Not really sure what either of your points are, but I'm going to end it like this: I have a 7* mace windu who does terrible damage and has useless skills, we need to rework this poor jedi master ASAP or condemn him to a life of uselessness.

As @Abyss added, thread over.

How much does mace hits at 7 star level 60 with his special without crit. It can't be less than 2.2k, since I've definitely been hit 1.8-2k by a 4 star 50-55 mace during a GW run. Just add aoe to that, and he has the second strongest or strongest aoe+debuff+defense up. I agree that he needs working, but a complete rework is not necessary. People on here have also confirmed that he hits 3.5k crits when he has defense up, which is more than consular and around the same as lumi crits without buff.

His special hits around 2.8k and his normal attack hits around 1.3k, while with defence up it deals around 2.1k damage which I have always maintained should be baseline for such a supposedly legendary character.

I think it's the lack of a clear cut role the hurts Mace the most. While he has no obvious weaknesses, neither does he shine in any area. Which means, in a highly specialized team where every toon has a distinct role, Mace is always eclipsed by someone who can do what he does but a little better. That's a little weird for a character with such profound background in the lore.

Oh, and I don't see the point in calling each other noobs in a thread that's clearly about discussing ideas for developing a character. That's not a smart way to foster a creative atmosphere. And if we want to help create new concepts for Mace, then creativity is a good thing. Just saying.

Would you two maybe take it to PM or something? Your personal war it's entirely off topic now.

"Nonemo;37650" wrote:
I think it's the lack of a clear cut role the hurts Mace the most. While he has no obvious weaknesses, neither does he shine in any area. Which means, in a highly specialized team where every toon has a distinct role, Mace is always eclipsed by someone who can do what he does but a little better. That's a little weird for a character with such profound background in the lore.

Oh, and I don't see the point in calling each other noobs in a thread that's clearly about discussing ideas for developing a character. That's not a smart way to foster a creative atmosphere. And if we want to help create new concepts for Mace, then creativity is a good thing. Just saying.

Here I think you make a good point, in a game where we are only given 5 character slots yet 71 to choose from we must use our most highly specialised and highly effective characters... Mace windu being neither. His only strength is currently his hp which doesn't get you anywhere with low damage, low speed and useless abilities (vapaad is literally pointless and not once since soft launch have I seen this ability used).
All he really needs a bit of reworking and he could hold his own as special debuff tank in a game where there are no shortages of them.