Clones vs. Padmé

"littleMAC77;c-2036524" wrote:

"MasterJediBrian;c-2036521" wrote:

"littleMAC77;c-2036515" wrote:
How is this thread about a bad player blaming game design as the reason why his B-level squad couldnt touch a meta level squad (that is also a hard counter to said b squad) still going?

You indeed are "little". You're proving my point, albeit unwittingly. The clones CAN touch metas (that are harder to farm than Padme), but against her all we get is a running joke. There's no point in even beginning the match. But if that's the pinnacle of your game theory aspirations, I understand. When I was 6, I had similar ones.

Thats why the point about the counter is important here. Not only are you bringing in a lower tier squad, but against their counter. You are proving everyone else in this threads point: you made a mistake bringing a team that is hard countered by the opponent.

Also, maybe i am wrong but last I saw Shaak only counters darth revan with JKA acting as a nuke.

No. Shaak can counter JKR, but I don't recommend using Anakin. Clone Sarge or Barriss (you gotta hustle if you're gonna use Barriss! I mean REALLY hustle.) and even Cody can have their successes here. Some lists don't have Padme Tier 1, but perhaps she should be. Just disagree with her total invulnerability vs. clones.

"MasterJediBrian;c-2036521" wrote:


You indeed are "little". You're proving my point, albeit unwittingly. The clones CAN touch metas (that are harder to farm than Padme), but against her all we get is a running joke. There's no point in even beginning the match. But if that's the pinnacle of your game theory aspirations, I understand. When I was 6, I had similar ones.

You seem like the type of person to complain that high-debuff, low-damage teams can't get through KRU singlehandedly. Teams have counters, if a character provides protection up when attacked out of turn, attacking them out of turn is a stupid idea.

"MasterJediBrian;c-2036532" wrote:

"littleMAC77;c-2036524" wrote:

"MasterJediBrian;c-2036521" wrote:

"littleMAC77;c-2036515" wrote:
How is this thread about a bad player blaming game design as the reason why his B-level squad couldnt touch a meta level squad (that is also a hard counter to said b squad) still going?

You indeed are "little". You're proving my point, albeit unwittingly. The clones CAN touch metas (that are harder to farm than Padme), but against her all we get is a running joke. There's no point in even beginning the match. But if that's the pinnacle of your game theory aspirations, I understand. When I was 6, I had similar ones.

Thats why the point about the counter is important here. Not only are you bringing in a lower tier squad, but against their counter. You are proving everyone else in this threads point: you made a mistake bringing a team that is hard countered by the opponent.

Also, maybe i am wrong but last I saw Shaak only counters darth revan with JKA acting as a nuke.

No. Shaak can counter JKR, but I don't recommend using Anakin. Clone Sarge or Barriss (you gotta hustle if you're gonna use Barriss! I mean REALLY hustle.) and even Cody can have their successes here. Some lists don't have Padme Tier 1, but perhaps she should be. Just disagree with her total invulnerability vs. clones.

Thats not Darth Revan

"thecarterologist958;c-2036533" wrote:

"MasterJediBrian;c-2036521" wrote:


You indeed are "little". You're proving my point, albeit unwittingly. The clones CAN touch metas (that are harder to farm than Padme), but against her all we get is a running joke. There's no point in even beginning the match. But if that's the pinnacle of your game theory aspirations, I understand. When I was 6, I had similar ones.

You seem like the type of person to complain that high-debuff, low-damage teams can't get through KRU singlehandedly. Teams have counters, if a character provides protection up when attacked out of turn, attacking them out of turn is a stupid idea.

No, I don't complain about that stuff, you're going to have teams with specialities and overall superiority, it's just that given Clones' overall capabilities (vs JKR & Malak) I find it very disappointing that they're not even able to weaken Padme even a tiny bit for a 2nd battle.

"Dwinkelm;c-2036437" wrote:
Clone Teams - 100% FTP, easy to farm, not difficult to gear

Padme Teams - requires a lot of focused, dedicated investment with a raid toon (GK), possibly a legendary (3-3PO), which take an entire team of g11+ Ewoks, an entire squad of g12 Separatists just to unlock Padmé to begin with... and WAY more gear on Padmé teams.

Clones have been here since Day 1, Padmé was introduced closer to Day 1,000. Easy-to-acquire teams should not counter difficult-to-acquire teams.

@MasterJediBrian, you are on this counsel, but we do not grant you the rank of Master.

This is the way.

Genius.

Nice!

"MasterJediBrian;c-2036521" wrote:

"littleMAC77;c-2036515" wrote:
How is this thread about a bad player blaming game design as the reason why his B-level squad couldnt touch a meta level squad (that is also a hard counter to said b squad) still going?

You indeed are "little". You're proving my point, albeit unwittingly. The clones CAN touch metas (that are harder to farm than Padme), but against her all we get is a running joke. There's no point in even beginning the match. But if that's the pinnacle of your game theory aspirations, I understand. When I was 6, I had similar ones.

I haven’t seen a single Clone team in top 100 against meta teams (DR/Malk, GAS, Padme, GG variant squads). Clones are a C squad, very low B

@JDIII there's 3 in my top 50 right now 7 if you count the gas teams

"Dwinkelm;c-2036437" wrote:
Clone Teams - 100% FTP, easy to farm, not difficult to gear

uhhhh......

"Treeburner;c-2036671" wrote:






Relic padme team dead clone team won .

Now that I've done this can we kill this thread

I'm definitely reserving judgment as I can't tell you how many times guys have testified to the ease of beating a full r7 Malak squad with clones & Anakin, only to attempt it myself and have little success because Anakin's AoE most of the time doesn't deliver enough hit points (even with excellent mods). You say "relic'd". HOW relic'd? Be sure, don't guess! ARC may be a little better than Sarge here, but against a full r7 Padme lineup, I'd literally have to see it live to believe it! And as of today, I stand by this: r7-Clones won't even scratch an r7 Padme!

"Baby_Yoda;c-2036797" wrote:

"MasterJediBrian;c-2036793" wrote:

"Treeburner;c-2036671" wrote:






Relic padme team dead clone team won .

Now that I've done this can we kill this thread

I'm definitely reserving judgment as I can't tell you how many times guys have testified to the ease of beating a full r7 Malak squad with clones & Anakin, only to attempt it myself and have little success because Anakin's AoE most of the time doesn't deliver enough hit points (even with excellent mods). You say "relic'd". HOW relic'd? Be sure, don't guess! ARC may be a little better than Sarge here, but against a full r7 Padme lineup, I'd literally have to see it live to believe it! And as of today, I stand by this: r7-Clones won't even scratch an r7 Padme!

Arc is like 200x better than sarge.

Buff dispel + high damage.

Dispels Protection up? Coordinated with Anakin's basic (buff immunity- I think I'm going to pump his potency back up to 90%+ , it's more fun), "my pilot light is beginning to burn brighter Chuck"!