Devs could've made Thrawn anti Chaze/Triple Cleanse with one tweak

QGJ lead doesn't agree.

"Yung_Hen;d-117277" wrote:
His leadership ability grants empire allies 20% turn meter whenever they resist a debuff or get a debuff. If they changed that to "empire allies get 20% turn meter whenever an enemy gains a buff," it could give them a lot of turns for whenever the enemy gets a HOT from Chirrut, tenacity up, etc. (Obviously the tm gain might have to be balanced or tweaked based on this change but the idea itself is what matters). But that triple cleanse team is so buff-heavy that this leadership would actually combat it, and gaining TM when they get a debuff (the current structure) is kinda irrelevant against a team that doesn't really apply them.

Triple cleanse runs with nilly (debuff dependent), R2 (tosses an aoe burn, and stuns), and Baze (reverses buffs to debuffs and gives speed down). Seem like enough debuffs to make that part of Thrawn's lead relevant vs. triple cleanse. The rest of thrawn's kit also seems geared to combat triple cleanse teams, so I don't really see this as a problem. Just wait and see if Thrawn manages to shift the team balance. It's way too early to tell.

Triple cleanse beats Thrawn comps pretty easily. It's the AI that is busted in the game. There needs to be much more attention to tweaking the AI and not to releasing new characters that don't actually solve anything. I agree with the OP here; Thrawn teams might actually hold on defense even with the broken AI if he granted Empire allies TM from enemy buffs, basically like a team-wide Baze unique. And yes, the TM gain might have to be adjusted not to make this too overpowering.

Basically this comes down to people crying about their team on defense . Honestly no teams should be able to hold. You should have to earn your spot on the ladder daily. Otherwise what's the point

Lol they should just fix ATF and Thrawn Ai...

"UltimateSeaDog;c-1138687" wrote:
Lol they should just fix ATF and Thrawn Ai...

... and Yoda, and QGJ, and Leia, and .....

"BulYwif;c-1138712" wrote:

"UltimateSeaDog;c-1138687" wrote:
Lol they should just fix ATF and Thrawn Ai...

... and Yoda, and QGJ, and Leia, and .....

And DN annihilate...

Yeah I think we need to give up on making a kit that would counter Chaze. It could be done but the easier way about this would be just to nerf them into reality. You can leave everything the same just bring down their base stats a little. Take 4k health from Chirrut and reduce his speed by 20. Make Baze hit half as hard. Now you can still play with their same fun kits it's just that they are in line with the rest of the game.

I don't know if this will stick but it seems so...my LB is pretty competitive and well ahead of the gg report as it moves fast to shifts ... but where I was the only DV user, we now have 5 DV in the top 11 and 1 Tarkin lead - just 2 Rex - 2 QGJ and 1 GK.

Apparently the guys with Chaze / GK / R2 / Ahsoka teams are having some legit problems and looking to make a switch as they are losing vs. these squads.

The Tarkin squad is the 2x CD version with Thrawn + GK ... it's very solid.

The DV versions are SA based and some have Thrawn and some don't - I haven't put Thrawn in my team yet, still using Tarkin. I actually want to say that Tarkin and now Thrawn has leveled the playing field and ... are they now ahead?

I've been running a tankless DV squad for a few weeks now and as I put more speed / mods in them as I go the rank holds better and better (SA now humming at 272). Stayed at 2 overnight yesterday, been hanging top 10 fringe at worst.

Bottom line, I think folks really need to look at the DV / Tarkin leads again - especially if you have some decent mods with speed, the setups can be very punishing.

Or they could've made Thrawn's unique: "Enemies are immune to HOT effects while Thrawn is alive"