For those that want Thrawn nerfed

"Gank_Killer;c-1168672" wrote:

"Zaraos;c-1168586" wrote:
No characters should ever be nerfed. People should just learn how to beat them instead of crying about them. Nothing is invincible

Characters should be tested and released to be in line with the rest of the game too. That didn't happen with Chibus or GK, hence the saltiness.

GK is a great, and we'll balanced toon.

Chaze was released with a rework of an old toon to balance out the advantage he gives.

Saltiness comes from the person not the toons.

"Gank_Killer;c-1168695" wrote:
GK is not well balanced, you're smoking something.
Reworking a single toon to balance the advantage of a OP duo does nothing but force the entire game community to now use the OP duo and the "balancing" toon. I'm not even sure what you're referring to here.
Rebuttal ineffective.

Funny. Why does everyone always miss to include DN, Zylo, Zavage in the "Game destroying(not breaking) tonns list?

"Crazylazyguy;c-1168698" wrote:

"Gank_Killer;c-1168695" wrote:
GK is not well balanced, you're smoking something.
Reworking a single toon to balance the advantage of a OP duo does nothing but force the entire game community to now use the OP duo and the "balancing" toon. I'm not even sure what you're referring to here.
Rebuttal ineffective.

Funny. Why does everyone always miss to include DN, Zylo, Zavage in the "Game destroying(not breaking) tonns list?

Zavage, while broken (and I use him), doesn't have half as much flexibility as DN, Chaze and GK. Zylo these days are okay. I wouldn't classify him so high, especially with his terrible, terrible AI.

Thrawn isn't OP (this coming from a person that doesn't have or want Thrawn), he's just annoying. When he's surrounded by other toons (DT, DN, Chaze) he does seem OP. He's just one that you want to keep stunned and kill last. However I faced a Thrawn in GW today that couldn't get a debuff on him to save my life. I finally beat the team, but he sure was frustrating.

"Gank_Killer;c-1168695" wrote:
GK is not well balanced, you're smoking something.
Reworking a single toon to balance the advantage of a OP duo does nothing but force the entire game community to now use the OP duo and the "balancing" toon. I'm not even sure what you're referring to here.
Rebuttal ineffective.

Boba was the immediate answer to chaze. Now many have learned other ways. They are a solid duo, but this also means to take advantage of this you need to star gear and lvl and mod 2 toons. (Stars may not be as important but they still count). They are not unbeatable, and they are not on every team. (Also not everyone is running boba, so they don't need to be running them or the "balance toon").

GK is a great toon and has nothing about him that makes OP. He has an effective kit, he can fit in many teams. He is difficult to obtain and gear, but people always seem to ignore that when it comes to balance. There is an effort and reward system that is also in place when we talk balance.

Your saltiness does not make my rebuttal ineffective.

this, as always, boils down to what people consider "balanced".

"leef;c-1168721" wrote:
this, as always, boils down to what people consider "balanced".

Which is why belief will always lead to travesty and the truth shall set you free. We have a long way to go as humans before we can start accepting things as they are and not allowing perceptional filters to block effective reality.

"Kyno;c-1168716" wrote:

"Gank_Killer;c-1168695" wrote:
GK is not well balanced, you're smoking something.
Reworking a single toon to balance the advantage of a OP duo does nothing but force the entire game community to now use the OP duo and the "balancing" toon. I'm not even sure what you're referring to here.
Rebuttal ineffective.

Boba was the immediate answer to chaze. Now many have learned other ways. They are a solid duo, but this also means to take advantage of this you need to star gear and lvl and mod 2 toons. (Stars may not be as important but they still count). They are not unbeatable, and they are not on every team. (Also not everyone is running boba, so they don't need to be running them or the "balance toon").

GK is a great toon and has nothing about him that makes OP. He has an effective kit, he can fit in many teams. He is difficult to obtain and gear, but people always seem to ignore that when it comes to balance. There is an effort and reward system that is also in place when we talk balance.

Your saltiness does not make my rebuttal ineffective.

As someone that uses GK, I can tell you he is not even close to balanced. Neither is DN, who I also use. GK has everything -- Squad Attack (damage), cleanse, good hp, good prot, good distribution of stats, GOOD AI CONTROL (Very important in arena)

I understand the difficulty in getting him but he is far from the average joe. He is high and above.

"Jedi_Reach_;c-1168704" wrote:

"Crazylazyguy;c-1168698" wrote:

"Gank_Killer;c-1168695" wrote:
GK is not well balanced, you're smoking something.
Reworking a single toon to balance the advantage of a OP duo does nothing but force the entire game community to now use the OP duo and the "balancing" toon. I'm not even sure what you're referring to here.
Rebuttal ineffective.

Funny. Why does everyone always miss to include DN, Zylo, Zavage in the "Game destroying(not breaking) tonns list?

Zavage, while broken (and I use him), doesn't have half as much flexibility as DN, Chaze and GK. Zylo these days are okay. I wouldn't classify him so high, especially with his terrible, terrible AI.

Zavage doesn't have as much flexibility as Chaze? What? He dispels all of his debuffs when he gets crit hit, he gains a ton of hots and before you can manage to health immune him, he dispels it, he deals tons of damage and applies offence and defense down. What does "not as flexible" mean?

Yes Zylo is probably easy to beat. If you have DN, but if you have DN everyone is easy to beat. Try winning against Zylo without R2 to stun him or DN to one-shot him. You manage to take him to 3% health and the next thing you know is that he either wiped your entire team with 80k AOE or simply hit you with his special(~50k crit) and got 100% protection back. Then he proceeds to do this until you're dead.

Those 2 are as annoying as Chaze.

"Gank_Killer;c-1168737" wrote:

"Kyno;c-1168716" wrote:

"Gank_Killer;c-1168695" wrote:
GK is not well balanced, you're smoking something.
Reworking a single toon to balance the advantage of a OP duo does nothing but force the entire game community to now use the OP duo and the "balancing" toon. I'm not even sure what you're referring to here.
Rebuttal ineffective.

GK is a great toon and has nothing about him that makes OP.

You're definitely on something.
Difficult to obtain should not mean unbalancing the game. The fact that he's equally effective in any team composition is literally what makes him OP. There is no reason whatsoever he should work just as well for Sith as he does any other faction, that's dumb.
@CG I wouldn't hire this guy for Game Balance.

Being usable in many teams is the whole point of the game. The idea has been stated by the devs that the game should be a sandbox.