"Crazylazyguy;c-1168783" wrote:"Jedi_Reach_;c-1168781" wrote:"Crazylazyguy;c-1168777" wrote:"Jedi_Reach_;c-1168771" wrote:"Crazylazyguy;c-1168762" wrote:
Yes he can.
No, he can't.
https://swgoh.gg/meta-report/#all
Savage Opress 391 15%
There's a reason for this. Sure, he can 'work' outside a sith team, but there will be better options. Most of the times that is not the case with Chaze / DN / GK, who can work practically anywhere.
PS: @SnakesOnAPlane can you post those videos where you were showing how Chaze makes almost any team better? Can't find it. Yet to see Savage pull that off.
Why did you feel like ignoring the rest of my post?
Because your post can (and was) summarized into the quoted section. I then proceeded to answer it.
No it was not. You literally repeated "Whereas Chaze/DN/GK can work anywhere". I am asking you again, how many FO, Resistance, Sith, Clone, Droid, Jedi teams have you seen with Chaze?
"Jedi_Reach_;c-1168779" wrote:"leef;c-1168768" wrote:"Jedi_Reach_;c-1168747" wrote:"Kyno;c-1168716" wrote:"Gank_Killer;c-1168695" wrote:
GK is not well balanced, you're smoking something.
Reworking a single toon to balance the advantage of a OP duo does nothing but force the entire game community to now use the OP duo and the "balancing" toon. I'm not even sure what you're referring to here.
Rebuttal ineffective.
Boba was the immediate answer to chaze. Now many have learned other ways. They are a solid duo, but this also means to take advantage of this you need to star gear and lvl and mod 2 toons. (Stars may not be as important but they still count). They are not unbeatable, and they are not on every team. (Also not everyone is running boba, so they don't need to be running them or the "balance toon").
GK is a great toon and has nothing about him that makes OP. He has an effective kit, he can fit in many teams. He is difficult to obtain and gear, but people always seem to ignore that when it comes to balance. There is an effort and reward system that is also in place when we talk balance.
Your saltiness does not make my rebuttal ineffective.
As someone that uses GK, I can tell you he is not even close to balanced. Neither is DN, who I also use. GK has everything -- Squad Attack (damage), cleanse, good hp, good prot, good distribution of stats, GOOD AI CONTROL (Very important in arena)
I understand the difficulty in getting him but he is far from the average joe. He is high and above.
But does being better than the average joe means that he's out of ballance?
That's a good question.
In the case of GK, based on the state of the game, he's not balanced. If he were easier to unlock, the statistics on the meta report would be through the roof. Well, that's because his kit works near-flawlessly in Arena. He has the answer to almost every problem and the AI uses him smoothly. Such is not the case for many characters.
I'm of the idea that characters should be equally balanced. Not necessarily by exact stats or abilities, but by the potential they bring. GK's potential is incredible. There's a reason why he's so predominantly used."Kyno;c-1168769" wrote:
He is a hard farm and not easy to gear. This is part of that balance.
That's about the only thing keeping him in check from not being on virtually every single team. He can replace any tank and work either just as good or better.
"leef;c-1168795" wrote:"Jedi_Reach_;c-1168779" wrote:"leef;c-1168768" wrote:"Jedi_Reach_;c-1168747" wrote:"Kyno;c-1168716" wrote:"Gank_Killer;c-1168695" wrote:
GK is not well balanced, you're smoking something.
Reworking a single toon to balance the advantage of a OP duo does nothing but force the entire game community to now use the OP duo and the "balancing" toon. I'm not even sure what you're referring to here.
Rebuttal ineffective.
Boba was the immediate answer to chaze. Now many have learned other ways. They are a solid duo, but this also means to take advantage of this you need to star gear and lvl and mod 2 toons. (Stars may not be as important but they still count). They are not unbeatable, and they are not on every team. (Also not everyone is running boba, so they don't need to be running them or the "balance toon").
GK is a great toon and has nothing about him that makes OP. He has an effective kit, he can fit in many teams. He is difficult to obtain and gear, but people always seem to ignore that when it comes to balance. There is an effort and reward system that is also in place when we talk balance.
Your saltiness does not make my rebuttal ineffective.
As someone that uses GK, I can tell you he is not even close to balanced. Neither is DN, who I also use. GK has everything -- Squad Attack (damage), cleanse, good hp, good prot, good distribution of stats, GOOD AI CONTROL (Very important in arena)
I understand the difficulty in getting him but he is far from the average joe. He is high and above.
But does being better than the average joe means that he's out of ballance?
That's a good question.
In the case of GK, based on the state of the game, he's not balanced. If he were easier to unlock, the statistics on the meta report would be through the roof. Well, that's because his kit works near-flawlessly in Arena. He has the answer to almost every problem and the AI uses him smoothly. Such is not the case for many characters.
I'm of the idea that characters should be equally balanced. Not necessarily by exact stats or abilities, but by the potential they bring. GK's potential is incredible. There's a reason why he's so predominantly used."Kyno;c-1168769" wrote:
He is a hard farm and not easy to gear. This is part of that balance.
That's about the only thing keeping him in check from not being on virtually every single team. He can replace any tank and work either just as good or better.
And there it is.
Your idea of how this game should be balanced is different than mine for example. So arguing whether a toon is balanced or not is futile. The real question that could be discussed is what balance should look like in this game. The whole is character X balanced or not discussion would be redundant in most cases.
In the end i'm just glad that my idea of balance for this particular game is mostly the same as the devs'. Someone is probably going to argue that i'm wrong and that i'm conditioned to like how it currently is. They might be right, but who cares? i'm enjoying the game. Afterall, it's just a freemium game so expecting a masterpiece of balance is just silly.
