In a game where both squads have Han Solo, which Han Solo gets to use their "Shoots First" bonus attack first?I assumed it was Speed but I just had a match against a Han Solo of Speed 252 as opposed to my Han's Speed of 255 and his Han got the first bonus attack. Stunned my Han, his Chewbacca joined in, I ended up losing the match as a direct result. And no, he didn't have a Leader who added to Speed.Is it just random?

If it's GAC ensure you're checking speed by long pressing the character in that squad, not from the opponent's inventory. Mods can be swapped around after joining, and the current inventory might not match what was equipped when they joined.

What were full squad compositions?

Team compositions? Identical? No unique allowing for TM/Speed gain on his side on any character? If everything is equal, your han should have more overflow, but without more context no one can really say for sure.

It's not about overflow.If it was legitimately Han v Han on the opening move, with no leadership speed boost then OP's Han should have shot first according to the devs.

So given the questions I'm being asked, I assume it IS supposed to be determined by Speed?I will triple check everything again but I saw nothing previously that would have helped.His leader was CLS - no Speed boost from him.

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Da_Bauers
New Spectator
4 years ago
If it's GAC ensure you're checking speed by long pressing the character in that squad, not from the opponent's inventory. Mods can be swapped around after joining, and the current inventory might not match what was equipped when they joined.
ildarz
4 years ago
What were full squad compositions?
firefoxx83uk
4 years ago
Team compositions? Identical? No unique allowing for TM/Speed gain on his side on any character? If everything is equal, your han should have more overflow, but without more context no one can really say for sure.
Da_Bauers
New Spectator
4 years ago
It's not about overflow.

If it was legitimately Han v Han on the opening move, with no leadership speed boost then OP's Han should have shot first according to the devs.
Stenun
4 years ago
So given the questions I'm being asked, I assume it IS supposed to be determined by Speed?
I will triple check everything again but I saw nothing previously that would have helped.

His leader was CLS - no Speed boost from him.
ChristophIV
Hero+
4 years ago
"Stenun;c-2235929" wrote:
So given the questions I'm being asked, I assume it IS supposed to be determined by Speed?
I will triple check everything again but I saw nothing previously that would have helped.

His leader was CLS - no Speed boost from him.

Who else was on both teams? GAC or TW? Where are you checking the speed of the enemy Han?
firefoxx83uk
4 years ago
"Vendi1983;c-2235928" wrote:
It's not about overflow.

If it was legitimately Han v Han on the opening move, with no leadership speed boost then OP's Han should have shot first according to the devs.

It technically IS about overflow. Both get 100% TM at start of battle, the speed difference adds overflow, determining which goes first. So what you say is correct, but its because of overflow. Before overflow was added it was completely RNG which han shot first.
firefoxx83uk
4 years ago
"Stenun;c-2235929" wrote:
So given the questions I'm being asked, I assume it IS supposed to be determined by Speed?
I will triple check everything again but I saw nothing previously that would have helped.

His leader was CLS - no Speed boost from him.

Again just giving the leader doesn't give full context. Many unique abilities add various effects that can affect this. Were your teams an exact mirror match?
Da_Bauers
New Spectator
4 years ago
It's not overflow. Han's bonus turn at the start is just that, a 100% TM bonus turn. Because they're tied at 100% turn meter, faster Han is supposed to win. It's right in the dev post regarding TM changes.

"Here is the order in which units will take turns if multiple units have reached at least 100% Turn Meter:

Unit with the highest Turn Meter overflow value

If multiple units are tied with the exact same Turn Meter overflow value, the unit with the highest Speed will act

If multiple units are tied with the exact same Turn Meter overflow value and the same Speed, one of them will be chosen randomly"

It was done that way to remove the coin flip that used to happen.
Stenun
4 years ago
I've gone over his squad for the third time and I still can't spot what might have added more Speed to his Han Solo. I checked his Han's Speed in the TW by long clicking on the character and scrolling through the stats there.

His squad: CLS lead g12, Han Solo r4, Chewbacca r4, Threepio & Chewie g12, C-3PO g12
My squad: Qi'ra lead g10, Han Solo r5, Chewbacca r5, Enfys Nest r5, Veteran Smuggler Chewbacca r4