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Smidday1's avatar
7 years ago

Held by Hatred bugged?

I was playing on arena and my Sion had held by Hatred on him and their Nihilus used force drain killed him and he didn’t revive, I know that Annihilate means he can’t revive but this shouldn’t have happened is this a known glitch or bug? I know they’ve done a few updates recently and wondering if it’s disturbed some of the original mechanics
  • I thought isolated only prevented revives when raid traya used it? Does the playable toon prevent revives too?
  • "Bouu;c-1697940" wrote:
    I thought isolated only prevented revives when raid traya used it? Does the playable toon prevent revives too?


    Only in certain cases. It will stop Boba/Sion type revives but wont stop Daka or Jolee style revives. Zombie obviously trumps all.
  • "Kyno;c-1697522" wrote:
    "Boov;c-1697437" wrote:
    isolated?


    This?


    Only Raid Traya’s isolate prevents revives

  • Let me explain.
    The reason why sion did not revive is because it is not based on something embedded in the characters stats, like the held by hatred buff, or bounty hunters resolve.

    For example , if you annihlate boba, you will notice he doesnt revive either. However if you try to annihlate zombie, she will come back because the zombie relies on the nigntsisters which is embbeded in her coding. I have not tested it out on hk47 but i am assuming it is the same as zombies.

    This help?
  • "Ryanwhales;c-1739969" wrote:
    Let me explain.
    The reason why sion did not revive is because it is not based on something embedded in the characters stats, like the held by hatred buff, or bounty hunters resolve.

    For example , if you annihlate boba, you will notice he doesnt revive either. However if you try to annihlate zombie, she will come back because the zombie relies on the nigntsisters which is embbeded in her coding. I have not tested it out on hk47 but i am assuming it is the same as zombies.

    This help?


    No I know Annihilate prevents revivals for most toons but Nihilus never used Annihilate, he used Force Drain

  • "Olddumper;c-1697973" wrote:
    "Bouu;c-1697940" wrote:
    I thought isolated only prevented revives when raid traya used it? Does the playable toon prevent revives too?


    Only in certain cases. It will stop Boba/Sion type revives but wont stop Daka or Jolee style revives. Zombie obviously trumps all.


    Just to explain :
    Isolate prevent any positive effect out of turn. Auto-revive is a positive effect and it seems it triggers before Isolated gets cleared by the char death. So Sion and Boba can't auto-revive when isolated and they die out of their own turn.

    Once the char is dead Isolated doesn't apply anymore so he can be revived normally
  • "Metasly;c-1740359" wrote:
    "Olddumper;c-1697973" wrote:
    "Bouu;c-1697940" wrote:
    I thought isolated only prevented revives when raid traya used it? Does the playable toon prevent revives too?


    Only in certain cases. It will stop Boba/Sion type revives but wont stop Daka or Jolee style revives. Zombie obviously trumps all.


    Just to explain :
    Isolate prevent any positive effect out of turn. Auto-revive is a positive effect and it seems it triggers before Isolated gets cleared by the char death. So Sion and Boba can't auto-revive when isolated and they die out of their own turn.

    Once the char is dead Isolated doesn't apply anymore so he can be revived normally


    So is this WAI? Tbh I can’t even remember if he had isolate on him now but it seems the only explanation