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Empiric1's avatar
7 years ago

Help beating Phoenix

Hi

So first, I've only been playing since December so am a noob and I need help with beating Phoenix teams.

My shard is full of Phoenix teams and I don't understand how to beat them within 5 minutes. This is my team and more explanation below with what I'm struggling with:

https://swgoh.gg/u/adapting/

I don’t know if I’m doing something wrong or I need better gear or maybe better mods or both but found the team is virtually indestructible, it’s just a 5 minute stalemate then a draw, my acolyte doesn’t do enough dmg (I think because she’s low lvl and doesn’t have the double attack yet), Talzin is useless because I can’t plague them, Daka is not really a damage dealer, and the zombie also doesn’t do much dmg. The only time I win is once they’ve killed my zombie so much after 4 minutes Ventress starts literally one shotting them one by one, but because I was dumb and took my zombie to g8 and 6 stars, it can take a while to do that, if they even manage to kill him enough at all.

Do you have any advice as I could be doing something wrong from a strategic perspective ? What I usually do is I try and get rid of Chopper first ( I used to do Hera and Ezra but they just keep healing and resisting too much and chopper taunting and dispelling every turn was annoying, then once Chopper is out it gets a lot easier, I pretty much just ignore Kanan but sometimes I’ll kill him too if he gets low enough that I can use Talzin’s special, otherwise I go for Hera so she stops reviving and then Ezra dies really fast if Hera and Chopper aren’t around, Zeb is usually last because he seems to be just as tanky as the chopper and kanan but doesn’t do as much. Failing all of that, once zombies died 10 times Ventress starts taking out 50% of Kanans HP with one hit and her special nearly one shots all of them so that’s good
  • Bump ur thrawn, put him in place of acolyte. Fracture hera, stun kanan, focus fire on hera till she's gone.

    Btw, u need more speed.. talzin n daka at least >190. Assajj >120. Zombie looks good. U should find primary 30 speed on ur arrow mod. U also haven't upgrade several mods to max lvl 15.
  • Kanan must be causing you all the problem. Since NS ignores protection, protection gain is obsolete. If Kanan is alive the whole team gains health when they are debuffed. And they have a chance to hit back. So he should be your priority.
    And I believe chopper also gives heal through his unique althouh I'm not sure. So kill him too.
    After that you should kill Ezra to remove 40% offense stack, and then Hera for her turnmeter gain, and Zeb for the last. All he does is giving extra protection at the beginning of the battle and each of allies' turns, which should be useless against your team
  • YKMisfit's avatar
    YKMisfit
    Rising Novice
    I run NS as well and I usually look for Phoenix with underdeveloped or low gear Ezra as my main targets. I kill Ezra first and then Hera. Ezra because he's really the only damage dealer, and Hera because she gives revive to the others (Ezra, Hera, Chopper, Kanan, Zeb is usually the order I try to take them out in).

    Asajj's AoE buff removal is a very useful resource, but mainly to remove Kanan's taunt. I would avoid using her AoE attack though, as it'll only cause you grief.

  • "RacerDejak;c-1444563" wrote:
    Bump ur thrawn, put him in place of acolyte. Fracture hera, stun kanan, focus fire on hera till she's gone.

    Btw, u need more speed.. talzin n daka at least >190. Assajj >120. Zombie looks good. U should find primary 30 speed on ur arrow mod. U also haven't upgrade several mods to max lvl 15.


    Will he be better then Acolyte when she has the double attack and 50% offense at lvl 76? Only ask because my Thrawn is only 5 stars but happy to gear him ofc as appreciate he is the best dark side character right now.

    With mods, I'm still a bit confused about all this and they are so expensive, I think I've wasted a lot of credits with them so I've been hesitant about upgrading them. But then I also read that it can take 2 years to get the best mods so maybe there's no point in waiting to only upgrade when I have the best ones, did EA basically make this so people credit dump ? I'll take another look and see which ones I should def upgrade to max, I'm really struggling with credits though, and my scoundrels arent strong enough to do lvl 70 credit heist yet.

    Thanks for all the suggestions though, I didn't realise they gained health every time there's a debuff... that's really annoying because Zombie debuffs with both attacks, talzin's whole point is to debuff, and daka stuns, and I understand now Asajis AOE probably heals more than damages ... haha


  • A good tip for Mods is to take 2 days a week to spend your Cantina Energy on them (Sat & Sun for example). Even if you can only do Health Mods. Do the highest ones you can. This will allow you to build up your Characters and Mods.

    Edit*
    And don't upgrade them unless they are 5* and you like the secondaries bonuses you can see (green, blue, purple). Don't gamble on the white ones.
  • At your level there is no specific character to kill first. The correct answer is to check each character out first and go for the weakest, which is usually Hera or Chopper. Every character you knock off gimps the team and Hera is a good target due to her ability to backup plan and waste all your efforts. I find myself having to phoenix vs phoenix a lot on my new shard and that's what I've been doing. I also keep track of who I beat for later.