I'm curious what base speed refers to here. Is it before mod speed (what we generally refer to as base speed) or is it after mod, but before buffs? I only question because leadership specifically mentions before buffs and debuffs. However if it was referring to BASE speed, as in the characters natural speed before mods, there would be no reason to mention before buffs or debuffs, because these affect his actual speed but have no affect on base speed.

That is an excellent question that would have been great to have been answered in the developer's insight page.

"Gifafi;c-2128142" wrote:I would think Base means before anything but maybe Kyno knows?That is my assumption, but I figured it was best to ask before confidently stating that.

"Kyno;c-2128156" wrote:"Gifafi;c-2128142" wrote:I would think Base means before anything but maybe Kyno knows?That is my assumption, but I figured it was best to ask before confidently stating that.I would read it in this case to mean after mods, but before any other manipulations that occur once the match starts.

If we would have gotten a Q&A this one of the types of questions they'd actually respond to.Maybe the missing road ahead will answer it since they don't seem to be planning on discussing anything else.

"RoBane1738;c-2128435" wrote:"StarSon;c-2128431" wrote:"RoBane1738;c-2128387" wrote:If it’s with mods and you put no speed mods at all on him, your opponent could get 2(or more) turns in before the ability ever takes effect. I don’t recall it saying JKL is immune to fractureUse your own faster Thrawn then?What you mean, on your JKL team so you can fracture their Thrawn before their Thrawn fractures your JKL? lolNo, so you can tm swap to JKL, triggering the speed equalization, making your entire team faster than their entire team.

JKL Leadership Question: Base speed

ImTheChampion13
5 years ago
That is an excellent question that would have been great to have been answered in the developer's insight page.
NyKynoe
5 years ago
"Gifafi;c-2128142" wrote:
I would think Base means before anything but maybe Kyno knows?

That is my assumption, but I figured it was best to ask before confidently stating that.
Indominable_J81
5 years ago
"Kyno;c-2128156" wrote:
"Gifafi;c-2128142" wrote:
I would think Base means before anything but maybe Kyno knows?

That is my assumption, but I figured it was best to ask before confidently stating that.

I would read it in this case to mean after mods, but before any other manipulations that occur once the match starts.
eleslalegenda
New Spectator
5 years ago
If we would have gotten a Q&A this one of the types of questions they'd actually respond to.

Maybe the missing road ahead will answer it since they don't seem to be planning on discussing anything else.
Persimius
Seasoned Scout
5 years ago
"RoBane1738;c-2128435" wrote:
"StarSon;c-2128431" wrote:
"RoBane1738;c-2128387" wrote:
If it’s with mods and you put no speed mods at all on him, your opponent could get 2(or more) turns in before the ability ever takes effect. I don’t recall it saying JKL is immune to fracture

Use your own faster Thrawn then?

What you mean, on your JKL team so you can fracture their Thrawn before their Thrawn fractures your JKL? lol

No, so you can tm swap to JKL, triggering the speed equalization, making your entire team faster than their entire team.
spiffy4433
5 years ago
Or if you read the dev insight, you mod Shaak or HODA with super high speed, and under JKL lead they all get a shared skill that when used gives JKL 100% TM.
NyKynoe
5 years ago
"StarSon;c-2128586" wrote:
"Kyno;c-2128584" wrote:
"StarSon;c-2128461" wrote:
"RoBane1738;c-2128435" wrote:
"StarSon;c-2128431" wrote:
"RoBane1738;c-2128387" wrote:
If it’s with mods and you put no speed mods at all on him, your opponent could get 2(or more) turns in before the ability ever takes effect. I don’t recall it saying JKL is immune to fracture

Use your own faster Thrawn then?

What you mean, on your JKL team so you can fracture their Thrawn before their Thrawn fractures your JKL? lol

No, so you can tm swap to JKL, triggering the speed equalization, making your entire team faster than their entire team.

It's not a factor in mirror matches.

That's a weird thing to point out when the thread I was quoting was about Thrawn, not GL's or mirrors.

The quote you were responding to what about a mirror match.
Persimius
Seasoned Scout
5 years ago
"Ultra;c-2129277" wrote:
Speed after mods is considered as base speed

Says who?
Ima_Smakya
5 years ago
"StarSon;c-2129359" wrote:
"Train;c-2129351" wrote:
The character data resides on the server, not your phone (or at least the ‘master’ copy does). If the server has to compute mod impacts right before battle everytime it is doing more work as opposed to calculating it once when you apply the mod. Multiple battles a day for every player is millions more calculations...

How do you know that's how it's stored, though? It's entirely possible the client gets pre-mod stats and post-mod stats when it starts a battle.

Well, we don’t know for sure. Probably makes sense to just wait till Kyno gets confirmation.
Persimius
Seasoned Scout
5 years ago
"ImaSmakya;c-2129363" wrote:
"StarSon;c-2129359" wrote:
"Train;c-2129351" wrote:
The character data resides on the server, not your phone (or at least the ‘master’ copy does). If the server has to compute mod impacts right before battle everytime it is doing more work as opposed to calculating it once when you apply the mod. Multiple battles a day for every player is millions more calculations...

How do you know that's how it's stored, though? It's entirely possible the client gets pre-mod stats and post-mod stats when it starts a battle.

Well, we don’t know for sure. Probably makes sense to just wait till Kyno gets confirmation.

Sure, but this is the larger problem. It could be weeks before we get actual confirmation, and it's such a simple piece of information. I just don't understand why it hasn't been answered already.