I'm curious what base speed refers to here. Is it before mod speed (what we generally refer to as base speed) or is it after mod, but before buffs? I only question because leadership specifically mentions before buffs and debuffs. However if it was referring to BASE speed, as in the characters natural speed before mods, there would be no reason to mention before buffs or debuffs, because these affect his actual speed but have no affect on base speed.

That is an excellent question that would have been great to have been answered in the developer's insight page.

"Gifafi;c-2128142" wrote:I would think Base means before anything but maybe Kyno knows?That is my assumption, but I figured it was best to ask before confidently stating that.

"Kyno;c-2128156" wrote:"Gifafi;c-2128142" wrote:I would think Base means before anything but maybe Kyno knows?That is my assumption, but I figured it was best to ask before confidently stating that.I would read it in this case to mean after mods, but before any other manipulations that occur once the match starts.

If we would have gotten a Q&A this one of the types of questions they'd actually respond to.Maybe the missing road ahead will answer it since they don't seem to be planning on discussing anything else.

"RoBane1738;c-2128435" wrote:"StarSon;c-2128431" wrote:"RoBane1738;c-2128387" wrote:If it’s with mods and you put no speed mods at all on him, your opponent could get 2(or more) turns in before the ability ever takes effect. I don’t recall it saying JKL is immune to fractureUse your own faster Thrawn then?What you mean, on your JKL team so you can fracture their Thrawn before their Thrawn fractures your JKL? lolNo, so you can tm swap to JKL, triggering the speed equalization, making your entire team faster than their entire team.

JKL Leadership Question: Base speed

NyKynoe
5 years ago
Base speed:

Your speed value as you enter battle (no buffs, debuffs, unique abilities, or leader abilities affecting it).

Just gear and mods.
spiffy4433
5 years ago
"emoore123;c-2129538" wrote:
If I'm reading his kit right, when ns zombie dies off and applies here unique ability, her speed would decrease as intended correct? i.e. if luke has a base speed of 100 and takes a turn, he reduces her base speed to 100, and when she dies off twice, her speed would be set to 0 and would no longer take turns due to undying horde correct? @Kyno

Zombie is 50% and 100% loss. So if you kill her twice without her taking a turn and she has 2 stacks of her unique debuff her speed is already set to -100% or 0.
Akennox
5 years ago
I'd say before mods and buffs / debuffs.
The speed that is shown if you check the stats.
jppc2204
5 years ago
"Dirty_Litle_Smuggler;c-2128038" wrote:
That is an excellent question that would have been great to have been answered in the developer's insight page.

That and if this effect is a “TM manipulation”. I don’t think it is but i can be wrong.
GifafiTho
5 years ago
I would think Base means before anything but maybe @Kyno knows?
Persimius
Seasoned Scout
5 years ago
"Indominable_J;c-2128159" wrote:
"Kyno;c-2128156" wrote:
"Gifafi;c-2128142" wrote:
I would think Base means before anything but maybe Kyno knows?

That is my assumption, but I figured it was best to ask before confidently stating that.

I would read it in this case to mean after mods, but before any other manipulations that occur once the match starts.

Based on the statement that it is calculated at the start of the battle, this is how I read it as well. Would be nice to get confirmation.
sunepors
5 years ago
If it’s including mods you want to not mod any speed on him as that will make your opponents slower. I believe it said something about him not needing speed mods.
So that would indicate base speed is incl. mods
RWNITRO
5 years ago
If it’s with mods and you put no speed mods at all on him, your opponent could get 2(or more) turns in before the ability ever takes effect. I don’t recall it saying JKL is immune to fracture
Persimius
Seasoned Scout
5 years ago
"RoBane1738;c-2128387" wrote:
If it’s with mods and you put no speed mods at all on him, your opponent could get 2(or more) turns in before the ability ever takes effect. I don’t recall it saying JKL is immune to fracture

Use your own faster Thrawn then?
RWNITRO
5 years ago
"StarSon;c-2128431" wrote:
"RoBane1738;c-2128387" wrote:
If it’s with mods and you put no speed mods at all on him, your opponent could get 2(or more) turns in before the ability ever takes effect. I don’t recall it saying JKL is immune to fracture

Use your own faster Thrawn then?

What you mean, on your JKL team so you can fracture their Thrawn before their Thrawn fractures your JKL? lol