Let the Grievous speculations... Begin!

"LargKellein;137219" wrote:

"Atwell;136784" wrote:

"Phipps;136764" wrote:
I never really got the hype about Grievous. He 'hunted' Jedi. Yet every time we saw him in the movies he was running from or getting DISMANTLED by Obi Wan.

Lol.

I for one can't take Grievous seriously just because of this. Even in the Clone Wars animated he had only 1 show of power in my opinion and that was in the Episode against Kit Fisto. In he end Kit managed to lop off both his legs anyway...

I just can't see how you can compare him to Vader in the original trilogy (not whimey mimey Anakin from the prequels mind you). Vader was much more menacing and had a real presence. He'd come on scene and everyone was just silenced with fear. Grievous always looked like a grumpy old timer with a bothersome hip.

Hehe, that's the most accurate summary I've ever seen on him, sums it up very nicely for me as well. The man's win/loss ratio is comparable to Wile E. Coyote.

Accurate lmao? Wow, dig deeper into the lore. What you saw in the movies was nothing more then a glimpse.
General grievous was a notorious (and massivly feared) jedi hunter/killer who collected the sabers from the jedi he killed. Pretty sure he had over 20 confirmed kills too.

For someone you say just runs away etc (which was never the case, it was a tactical retreat whenever his battle droids failed him) racking up 20+ confirmed jedi kills is pretty impressive. The jedi as a whole feared him (not represented in the movies). But the movies only make up what, 5% of the actual star wars "history" that there is.

If you base opinions solely from the movies you will forever be outside the loop on all the vast info/stories about star wars.

Check grievous lore before making assumptions about his "cowardess". More jedi ran from him then he ever ran from and in many of his confirmed jedi kills he fought multiple jedi at once ;)

Hes an absolute monster

I am hoping they go the same way they did with Kylo Ren and don't give him a leader ability, with HK-47, Poggle, and to a lesser extent Lobot droids really don't need another leader.

I'm curious what type they will give him. He wasn't an actual droid, but he wasn't a sith either. Maybe they will go the route of Ugnaught and Corruscant Underworld Police, not giving him a type other than dark side attacker/support.

As far as abilities go, I'd want to see a unique that makes him gain turn meter when droid allies crit, some form of retribution, and a basic with multi attack.


I also really want to see what IG-100 will look like after the buff, if that counter chance gets bumped up to 60+ percent, HK-47, IG-86/88/100 and poggle teams will become viable, I think. Without considering what Grievous will look like, of course.

I could be wrong but I don't think they would give him 4 lightsabers. I feel like they would give him a Magnaguard Staff and/or a Droid Blaster.

My idea with that write-up would be that Grievous could deal ~1,5K damage per swing. The probabilities stack up so him hitting more than 3x would be rare indeed. But if he lands an Expose debuff on a Jedi, his next attack would shave off 20% HP right away. So the damage variance would be pretty high. He could do pretty much all from a measly 1,5K damage to one-shotting a toon. That would make him menacing and give him the amount of attacks he should have, without being OP, I'd hope.

"JarodTL;138881" wrote:
I could be wrong but I don't think they would give him 4 lightsabers. I feel like they would give him a Magnaguard Staff and/or a Droid Blaster.

What are you talking about????
He is a saber user through and through. He was a master at each saber fighting style (taught to him by one of the best swordsmen ever, Lord Tyranus) to deadly precision. He even matched windu on a deul (note windu is reguarded as the greatest jedi swordsman). Windu only escaped by force crushing grievous's chest but note that grievous had mace on the ropes so yea, he will have sabers lol and he better be a speed monster thats VERY proficient in using them like he actually was.

"Plasmaj;139052" wrote:

"Abyss;138981" wrote:

"JarodTL;138881" wrote:
I could be wrong but I don't think they would give him 4 lightsabers. I feel like they would give him a Magnaguard Staff and/or a Droid Blaster.

What are you talking about????
He is a saber user through and through. He was a master at each saber fighting style (taught to him by one of the best swordsmen ever, Lord Tyranus) to deadly precision. He even matched windu on a deul (note windu is reguarded as the greatest jedi swordsman). Windu only escaped by force crushing grievous's chest but note that grievous had mace on the ropes so yea, he will have sabers lol and he better be a speed monster thats VERY proficient in using them like he actually was.

the trend is for fastest characters in the actual story to become the slowest characters in the game (e.g. Asajj and Ahsoka). So a speed around 90 seems right

Just give him Jawa Engineer's +12ish speed for each droid ally and I'll be a happy clanker :D

"Abyss;138312" wrote:

"LargKellein;137219" wrote:

"Atwell;136784" wrote:

"Phipps;136764" wrote:
I never really got the hype about Grievous. He 'hunted' Jedi. Yet every time we saw him in the movies he was running from or getting DISMANTLED by Obi Wan.

Lol.

I for one can't take Grievous seriously just because of this. Even in the Clone Wars animated he had only 1 show of power in my opinion and that was in the Episode against Kit Fisto. In he end Kit managed to lop off both his legs anyway...

I just can't see how you can compare him to Vader in the original trilogy (not whimey mimey Anakin from the prequels mind you). Vader was much more menacing and had a real presence. He'd come on scene and everyone was just silenced with fear. Grievous always looked like a grumpy old timer with a bothersome hip.

Hehe, that's the most accurate summary I've ever seen on him, sums it up very nicely for me as well. The man's win/loss ratio is comparable to Wile E. Coyote.

Accurate lmao? Wow, dig deeper into the lore. What you saw in the movies was nothing more then a glimpse.
General grievous was a notorious (and massivly feared) jedi hunter/killer who collected the sabers from the jedi he killed. Pretty sure he had over 20 confirmed kills too.

For someone you say just runs away etc (which was never the case, it was a tactical retreat whenever his battle droids failed him) racking up 20+ confirmed jedi kills is pretty impressive. The jedi as a whole feared him (not represented in the movies). But the movies only make up what, 5% of the actual star wars "history" that there is.

If you base opinions solely from the movies you will forever be outside the loop on all the vast info/stories about star wars.

Check grievous lore before making assumptions about his "cowardess". More jedi ran from him then he ever ran from and in many of his confirmed jedi kills he fought multiple jedi at once ;)

Hes an absolute monster

We mentioned the movies and the animated series. Also I was refering to how Grievous is compared to Vader by the OP.

I'm only a casual fan so I don't dig too deep into any other source material. But I'm willing to bet that most casual fans don't go much further from the movies and TV series either. To a number of us, Grievous just never inspired the same hype as Vader did. As a villian he feels lack luster because of this. (Just another quick action figure cash grab by Lucas and the burning wreck he calls the prequels)

Even then there's still nothing much in movies and TV series to give Grievous a more feared reputation than Vader. In the movie, I admit Lucas did a poor job on the writing so his character could have been depicted better. But in the animated series he was still losing to the Jedi consistently and getting berrated by Count Dooku for his underwhelming performance.

In comparison, Vader was almost unstoppable in the original trilogy AND Star Wars Rebels.

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Come to think of it... Darth Maul from his less than 10 minute screen time in EP 1 has a more bad ass reputation as a villian. In the animated series he even gave Kenobi trouble and almost ended Kenobi. I'm sure in the lore Grievous has more history than Maul... So why can't they just... Make him bad ass in mainstream media? It's like Lucasfilms is making Grievous look bad on purpose. Sorry I just can't get the Grievous hype no matter which way I approach this.

That's cool, not everybody must feel the same way about toons after all ;)

I didn't exactly mean to compare Grievous to Vader when it comes to their respective impact and status. That, of course, wouldn't work. I just meant to point out that there are some similarities between their tragic fates, and it pulls at my heart string.

Personally, I like Grievous because he is relentless, but also a tactical player. He's often an underdog but never truly beaten. Except in RotS but screw the prequel trilogy anyway.

"Nonemo;139119" wrote:
Except in RotS but screw the prequel trilogy anyway.

I can agree to that. Lol.

In all seriousness though, when I first saw Grievous in the trailers for RoTS I had plenty of hope for him to be the reason why the Jedi got decimated. I wanted them to get away from the "love story" between "lil orphan annie" and Padme. I saw Grievous and I hoped for a darker story of how the Jedi got wiped out by this god awesome Jedi killer and only Anakin was the one who could finally beat him. Only to lose the light in him because he had to give in to his anger to beat Grievous. Anger at Grievous for killing all his Jedi comrades and scarring Anakin beyond repair (how much cooler would that have been instead of having him bake in lava?) But nope... We got order 66... Quick and lazy writing. (At least the animated series made Order 66 sound like an ACTUAL scheme)

After that disappointment Grievous just wasn't the same anymore... ("You were the chosen one you four armed bucket of bolts! You were supposed to bring balance to the prequels not get yourself shot!) :neutral:

*cough*