Looking for Palps/Vader/DS Arena advice

"TurgonGW;c-1468333" wrote:
Thanks for the advice guys, what about the Zeta I have saved up? Palps Unique? Nihlus Unique? Tarkin Unique?

Palps unique. The extra protection makes a HUGE difference. Also, while the extra 5% max might seem silly, with Thrawn there to boost his protection, it can help later in the battle.

And if no one gets shut down the best toon to tm swap with is tarkin.
He will aoe debuff then drop tm making your whole squad go first sometimes twice depending on stuns.
Just to add.
You should be aiming for IPD as your 5th if you can. The aoe dispel/target lock shuts down all teams.

Currently he isn't modded optimally. I plan on giving him my GK mods which are a healthy dose of health, protection, and speed. Speed arrow as well. All equally important. He doesn't need potency as tenacity down lands automatically and his stun does as wel. He will have advantage often enough so don't worry about crit but he doesn't really do enough damage to make crit damage worth it so I build him tanky and fast.

"Mobewan;c-1468797" wrote:
@DedrickRogue
jtr swipe and r2 stun happen alot more than thrawn can tm swap. Furthermore, many jtr run thrawn as well.

At least if it's gk, he still gives crit immunity if he's incapacitated.

Ive seen both being used, and gk is defititely harder to deal with.

If R2 wants to use a basic on shore instead of stealthing turn 1, more power to him. It’s certainly not going to happen on D though, and is a pretty terrible choice.

If no other buffs touch him, Shore can Regroup every other turn. That’s not quite GK picking up taunt constantly, but it’s certainly not “a sitting duck for 4 turns.”

Plus he feeds Empire TM, has a group heal built into his taunt, passive self-heal, and also spreads Crit Immunity.

I’m not arguing that GK can’t be effective in Palp-Vader squads, I’m disagreeing with this.....

"Mobewan;c-1468666" wrote:
Despite his pretaunt, shore is too easy to shut down.
Dispel his taunt or stun him and EP is a sitting duck for 4 turns.

...because it is factually incorrect.

Shore is a great tank, probably the best overal DS tank. GK is a great tank, probably the best overal LS tank. Against certain opponents GK might be better in that squad, it’s a testament to his kit that he can even be dropped into that squad and do well; but he’s certainly not better vs everyone, and much like GK he brings things to the table that the other can’t do.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vYGckzBdxiE

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9PyATvHm4_o

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LabOqjW0Iec&t=16s

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MSdluaFbkCc&t=3s

Well, I really enjoy Tarkin. Gives me a lot of control and works against every team.

"TurgonGW;c-1468333" wrote:
Thanks for the advice guys, what about the Zeta I have saved up? Palps Unique? Nihlus Unique? Tarkin Unique?

DN unique is also huge for the early debuffs if enemy is taking first turns and cleanses those health downs. It can put you right in their turns with the TM gain and interrupt opening moves, which can win / lose a match. If you want to run EP and maximize it on defense especially, DN unique is really big cause it acts as a TM penalty on toons that move earlier than you and cleanse (so LS teams with R2 for example).

Your mods are good, maybe just need to fine tune properly on toons.

I run zzPalp, zzVader, zThrawn, Tarkin and Shore. I have no problem against any squad, slaughter them all!! Tried several comps, but I can control battles more due to Tarkin instead of Nihilus.

Shore is way better than Kenobi on empire squad, u need more TM gain and start taunt to face JRey and trooper provide both. Plus is a complete blasphemy to run a light side toon there!

For Tarkin, stack up potency mods, if possible a potency at cross, he will became way stronger. Remember that his zeta potency gain, does not give extra defense %, only for the attack. So u hit harder, but will not be tougher.

@mobewan
you Said he was dead weight for 4 turns. We pointed out you were wrong.

Now your bringing up fracture from a cls team with raid Han.
Ok you stunned Vader, fractured shore.
Now it’s my thrawns turn he cleanses Vader. Vader gives everyone 20 tm.
DN aoes your cooldowns or tarkin debuff then aoes and drops tm.
Palp aoe stuns.
Thrawn fractures baze and your team is locked out.
Shore retaunts when fracture ends and now your done.

An early fracture (only if your thrawn is faster) after raid Han stunning Vader (how specific is that) is the single only situation you can get GK better than shore which doesn’t really matter because empire outspeeds teams after that.

My advice is across all teams and shore brings a lot more to the table than GK.

You run Baze and claim Shore is the easiest tank to get around? Dude doesn’t even have a real taunt.

And saying....

"Mobewan;c-1469730" wrote:

Shore is the easiest tank to get around if you have thrawn.

...is super disingenuous. Every tank not named Zeta OB is equally easy to get around when Fractured, unlike most Shore has the hp/protection to live through it.

I run EP L zeta, DV, Thrawn, DN zeta unique, SiT. I finish top 5 in arena and only drop 15 spots on defense. I tried shore but found SiT autotaunt worked better for me. You want DV to be fastest, mines 246. Force choke then culling blade to feed TM to rest of team. RJT teams will still go first but you will still get the win. I’m on an early 2016 shard that is very competitive.