When will we get any information about Lord Vaders potential buff ? Right now Lord Vader is the easiest GL to counter and hardest to get. Sith Triumvirate , Imperial Troopers , Fennec Lead without BSoJ , SLKR with nightsister cheese. I don't understand how CG released this character as he is right now and do not forget they did fix the crit immunity buff so this characters original state is what he is at the moment. Some youtubers, testers when Lord Vader launched talked like he is a beast or something like that but the problem is Lord Vader is not an Attacker he is a Tank. Game is saying he is an Attacker but he is not. Everyone who use him or fought against him says only he is thick. Not a single person can say Lord Vader is an Attacker he is not an Attacker until his 3rd Ult, but if you use ult at full you won't be able to charge up the ult until 4 turn goes. So he can turn into an Attacker but he needs at least 12 turn. And while using his ult he needs his 3 teammates alive, if not he needs another %100 ult. So i am asking this to anyone who works in EA CG, why did you make this character this way. He is a TANK, he is not like in the movies or games. As you can see from swgoh.com every Lord Vader user in high ranks using him with protection primaries this is not a good way to use an ATTACKER TAG character. Lord Vaders kit is really sloppy so please just don't change minor things like add some texts or anything else please turn him into an ATTACKER as you stated.

Yeah it's really weird to me how they have mentioned looking into him twice now, while also mentioning the hierarchy of strength in the last State of the Galaxy. But meanwhile they have completely ignored him and have not even hinted as to whether or not there will be any action taken for weeks now. Can we at least get some communication as to what the thought process is? Will there or will there not be any updates to his kit?

Reminds me a bit of SEE and the epic "SEE definitely needs a buff" thread that ran for months Eventually CG decided no changes were necessary. Agree with OP - LV is a tank,not an attacker.

It’s a lame team compared to jml. Who doesn’t love assist after assists LV and company get dazed asap and just sit there being meat bags for the next 3min.

"TargetEadu;c-2340743" wrote:"AlexanderG;c-2340727" wrote:Reminds me a bit of SEE and the epic "SEE definitely needs a buff" thread that ran for months Eventually CG decided no changes were necessary. Agree with OP - LV is a tank,not an attacker. They did give SEE a buff with the Great Nerf, though. Now he gains TM when enemies gain locked buffs, which makes him at least difficult to counter with IT. Plus Armorer’s existence.I still think SEE definitely needs a buff, even if it’s more lateral.That's a separate point. The thread I referred to went on for 2 or 3 months IIRC and there was very little word from the developers until the community manager said CG weren't changing anything. The buff you refer to happened months later.

Its almost as if making a GL that does virtually nothing until the 3 minute mark is a bad idea

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111Deep
3 years ago
"TargetEadu;c-2340743" wrote:
"AlexanderG;c-2340727" wrote:
Reminds me a bit of SEE and the epic "SEE definitely needs a buff" thread that ran for months

Eventually CG decided no changes were necessary.

Agree with OP - LV is a tank,not an attacker.

They did give SEE a buff with the Great Nerf, though. Now he gains TM when enemies gain locked buffs, which makes him at least difficult to counter with IT. Plus Armorer’s existence.

I still think SEE definitely needs a buff, even if it’s more lateral.

SEE is basically the cheapest GL, I wouldn’t expect much in terms of buffs from him after they did the TM buff.
TargetEadu
3 years ago
"AlexanderG;c-2340745" wrote:
"TargetEadu;c-2340743" wrote:
"AlexanderG;c-2340727" wrote:
Reminds me a bit of SEE and the epic "SEE definitely needs a buff" thread that ran for months

Eventually CG decided no changes were necessary.

Agree with OP - LV is a tank,not an attacker.

They did give SEE a buff with the Great Nerf, though. Now he gains TM when enemies gain locked buffs, which makes him at least difficult to counter with IT. Plus Armorer’s existence.

I still think SEE definitely needs a buff, even if it’s more lateral.

That's a separate point. The thread I referred to went on for 2 or 3 months IIRC and there was very little word from the developers until the community manager said CG weren't changing anything.

The buff you refer to happened months later.

True. But at this point same can be said about LV, minus the 2k response thread because there’s too much else these days for people to be mad at.
DuneSeaFarmer
3 years ago
And they wonder why most of us don't chase every shiny new hero lol
111Deep
3 years ago
"DuneSeaFarmer;c-2340791" wrote:
And they wonder why most of us don't chase every shiny new hero lol

https://youtu.be/kd4e_gDCIP0

Bossk lead BH countering a LV Maul in squad arena lol.

Definitely requires incredibly high relics but this was just hilarious to watch lmao.
Gifford_Alex
3 years ago
"SemiGod;c-2340816" wrote:
"DuneSeaFarmer;c-2340791" wrote:
And they wonder why most of us don't chase every shiny new hero lol

https://youtu.be/kd4e_gDCIP0

Bossk lead BH countering a LV Maul in squad arena lol.

Definitely requires incredibly high relics but this was just hilarious to watch lmao.

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666johnnyreb666
3 years ago
If it wasn’t for Maul the Lord Failure squad wouldn’t do anything but apply some dots and just stand there for a few minutes. Most pathetic, nearly useless, overpriced so called galactic legend in the game!!!
Alijar1
3 years ago
The buffs are adding the Inquisitors so you have to pay more money to make your LV team on par with the other GLs
nfi_gamer
3 years ago
Just goes to show that CG don't do sufficient testing, even for toons like GLs that are supposed to be big money makers. They rely on the playerbase to uncover bugs and power disparity issues.

LV is such a flop I wonder if they are making any money off him.

And it just reinforces that spending money on the new shiny doesn't guarantee success. You're just gambling with your money if you whale on the newest toon cos CG can't balance anything worth a damn.

Just hoard, wait for the big content creators to put out their test vids, then decide what to invest in.
mrsjroney
Rising Newcomer
3 years ago
Lv’s ultimate relies on high mastery from its allies.
Which makes LV a lot more powerful, but also involves relic’ing up his allies, especially if he wants to hold in Arena.
Eg
An r6 ally starts with 35% mastery, and r8 Is 60%, almost double the starting mastery, r9 has double mastery and so an r9 ally of LV will give LV double the mastery each ultimate.
Anything lower than r6 really weakens LV

I se LV in arena and rarely drop below top 10, but my team has benefit from whaling.

I use r9 LV, r9 maul, r8 RG r8 ninth sister r9 kru.
Although shore is a good replacement for ninth.
I have them all fast so all allies have a turn before LV’s 2nd turn.

The more buffs you give them team the better and removing them, really pumps up the whole teams mastery and makes the ultimate more powerful

But a far higher relic’d team is needed than a comparative jmk team, and in a resource limited game, this puts LV at a great disadvantage compared to JKL
darthvaderrage
3 years ago
"RoneytheHutt;c-2341266" wrote:
Lv’s ultimate relies on high mastery from its allies.
Which makes LV a lot more powerful, but also involves relic’ing up his allies, especially if he wants to hold in Arena.
Eg
An r6 ally starts with 35% mastery, and r8 Is 60%, almost double the starting mastery, r9 has double mastery and so an r9 ally of LV will give LV double the mastery each ultimate.
Anything lower than r6 really weakens LV

I se LV in arena and rarely drop below top 10, but my team has benefit from whaling.

I use r9 LV, r9 maul, r8 RG r8 ninth sister r9 kru.
Although shore is a good replacement for ninth.
I have them all fast so all allies have a turn before LV’s 2nd turn.

The more buffs you give them team the better and removing them, really pumps up the whole teams mastery and makes the ultimate more powerful

But a far higher relic’d team is needed than a comparative jmk team, and in a resource limited game, this puts LV at a great disadvantage compared to JKL

Right now Squad Arena is not important. GAC and TW is the real deal. In GAC when the full squad of inquisitorius is released ninth sister will move to that lineup, kru is with FO most likely, shore is making iden versio squad more consist on defense even against GAS type of squads, Maul is 10 times better with Mandalorians because he can make unusable toons to be able to defeat squads like SEE.

For the relic 9 , yes Lord Vader is better with every upgrade to relic but if someone dies before he uses his ult it doesnt matter how high relic those toons are and don't forget if you want Lord Vader to deal damage to enemy he needs 3 ult so if he uses his ult while no one is alive or 1 toon is alive and that is the case in almost every situtation. It doesnt matter how high relic those characters you have. Dont forget while you have 3 relic 9 right now the others dont even have one, so when they have a chance to upgrade a character to relic 9 like in the video when Bossk is relic 9 you can't beat them. Fennec bh, Imp Troopers, Sith Triumvirate and SLKR with nightsister cheese will be still working consistently. So yeah he needs a REAL BUFF.