"Sithlords_Inc;c-2311682" wrote:
"taquillasun;c-2311664" wrote:
"SemiGod;c-2311571" wrote:
"taquillasun;c-2311541" wrote:
I'll give my take world of Roguecraft style -
At first I struggled with Lord Vader vs. GL Kenobi. I had to think "Did I get worse?" "How am I losing to noobs?!" "This character is broken!" "Either CG needs to nerf GL Kenobi, or Lord Vader needs to get buffed!"
"After countless hours and hours of arena trials, all while watching other hit their payout only to miss mine, time...and time..again..."
"And then one night something happened. After watching kickboxer, Blood sport and American ninja 1-3 my skill level jumped like 8000% - and my spirit and mind became as one!"
No really all I did was swap out Darth Vader for Malak. It's been easy street every since. Here... take a look
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HMQMoqAMANc
Yeah beating JMK isn’t the problem.
The problem is that he takes 4+ minutes on offense just to finish a battle because of how slow his damage ranks up.
As well as being horrible on defense with terrible AI. Galactic legends aren’t equal and for the investment of LV, you’re better off ignoring him completely since he isn’t the top of arena, not the best in conquest, sucks on defense, meh in CRancor, etc.
The team is done after 3 minutes... How fast are you beating him in mirror? 2 minutes? Or less? That's some lofty goal stuff right there and unreasonable if you ask me. You can't expect an auto win...right? Oh my god....you can't... seriously , expect an auto win, can you?.
There is absolutely NO doubt I can kill GL Kenobi faster with Lord Vader than I can with a mirror. It's not a contest. Maybe not a ton faster..but faster.
My thinking is.. the fight shouldn't be taking forever, on average and even if it does, which happens, RNG is RNG, yes I have had unclean battles. Stuff happens. But I don't lose in the end. Lord Vader, is still winning when stuff goes off the rails.
In all seriousness, the complaints about Lord Vader are falling short of being "game breaking" issues. Can't kill fast enough... need to auto win, AI must be better.
Mod well, and read the kits. Learn the fight your way. My team and the way I attack GL Kenobi teams might be way different than other peoples. But dropping Darth Vader for Malak has seemed to me, to make a world of difference. Look at the video I posted. 2 mins and 45 secs to rip that GL Kenobi team down. You want faster?
Then, we're, we us, we're not talking about taking out a GL. You want to take out a lowbie squad in that time, that's not even a reasonable or fair expectation and you know it. Don't be disingenuous either. It's unreasonable to expect that. It is. Period.
You're talking about expecting auto wins being unreasonable, but the truth of the matter is Kenobi can reliably auto LV. SLKR still beats him with armorer, JML still dominates him on offense and wins much easier than against JMK, and theres even talk about certain Rey comps being able to auto LV as well. The only reason SEE doesnt win is because he times out due to LV being immune to shock.
There is nothing LV does that Kenobi doesnt do better both in terms of offense and defence, and JMK is undeniably the superior GL. If LV didnt have significantly higher requirements and wasnt useless for 3 months until people could get Maul it would be one thing, but to after all that get JMK light is insulting.
I've lost going full auto GL Kenobi Mirror. More than once. And just because it can be done, I don't feel that's a requisite for other GL's. I've also won using LV vs. GL Kenobi too on auto. So, It seems that it can be done either way. I'll grant you the win rate is higher GL Kenobi vs. LV but it's not a given.
I have used LV against most GL's and beat them consistently after a few battles and different comps.
Look, I felt the pain, but honestly, I don't think there is a more sure counter vs. Kenobi right now.