LV/Maul [MERGE]

my problem with lord vader/maul, is that it is just no fun to play.
matches against jmk teams usually take really long and if i wouldn't switch to auto battle at some point, it would time out. of course, the moment i switch to auto, i can't expect any smart actions on my side, i just hope my vader gets enough ultimates triggered. the animation of the ultimates may look nice in the beginning, but now used to them, they are annoying and they stop the game for 4-5 seconds every time. no fun at all. lv is a joke as a damage dealer until he gets at least his 2nd ultimate and after each ult he gains ashes of the republic for 5 turns, which prevents any ultimate charging.

They gotta change his ult charge when he has gains ashes of the republic.

What’s even more annoying is the difference in power between JMK first special and LV. They are essentially very similar but Kenobi’s version is so much more powerful and for no reason. Kenobi’s I Will Do What I Must - puts two powerful debuffs on the enemy (healing immunity and vulnerable) and LOCKS them in for 2 turns. It also increases damage at 50% a piece up to 500%!!!! I’ve seen it do monstrous damage. Then LV. Dark Harbinger - puts two powerful debuffs on the enemy (healing immunity and buff immunity) for 2 turns… which can be cleansed immediately, making it worthless, especially against a JMK team. It also increases damage at a measly 20% a piece up to… 100%? I get that he can buff his damage up to ungodly levels… oh except he doesn’t! Why not have them stack the same amount of damage (up to 500%) and have LV also lock his moves in (Buff Immunity and Heaing Immunity). They are after all two halves of the same warrior, make it feel like that, not Kenobi being a monster and Vader lag behind being easily beaten by Rey, JMK, JML, Kylo can get it done, even SEE can have a dig. Kenobi was addressed so quickly and LV gets zippo… I don’t understand the reasoning honestly.

CG said they wanted to release this pair of GLs separately so that they can both have their own time to, “shine in the spotlight” and funnily enough, Lord Vader isn’t shining at all in any sort of spotlight

"SemiGod;c-2310549" wrote:
CG said they wanted to release this pair of GLs separately so that they can both have their own time to, “shine in the spotlight” and funnily enough, Lord Vader isn’t shining at all in any sort of spotlight

Look, if that’s how they wanted to do it, they got it the wrong way around. LV should have come out first and then Kenobi. They knew how much a lot of players wanted this version of Vader and have wanted him for years… then he sucks. It’s honestly probably my biggest disappointment in the game so far which is saying something. Even more perplexing is that if Vader came out and was amazing, perhaps even just a tiny bit better than Kenobi, there would be a lot more money thrown around to get him… now so many people just aren’t going to bother.

"WattoisSnoke;c-2310550" wrote:

"SemiGod;c-2310549" wrote:
CG said they wanted to release this pair of GLs separately so that they can both have their own time to, “shine in the spotlight” and funnily enough, Lord Vader isn’t shining at all in any sort of spotlight

Look, if that’s how they wanted to do it, they got it the wrong way around. LV should have come out first and then Kenobi. They knew how much a lot of players wanted this version of Vader and have wanted him for years… then he sucks. It’s honestly probably my biggest disappointment in the game so far which is saying something. Even more perplexing is that if Vader came out and was amazing, perhaps even just a tiny bit better than Kenobi, there would be a lot more money thrown around to get him… now so many people just aren’t going to bother.

Yep, LV should’ve been released first.

It’s just funny how he’s much more expensive than JMK but performs a whole lot worse than JMK.

LV in nutshell.
First 3 min running against Brick wall.
Then once or twice Ult.
Last minutes running against the clock to finish the battle.
Definetly should have gone for JMK

"pinguinbooks;c-2310402" wrote:
my problem with lord vader/maul, is that it is just no fun to play.
matches against jmk teams usually take really long and if i wouldn't switch to auto battle at some point, it would time out. of course, the moment i switch to auto, i can't expect any smart actions on my side, i just hope my vader gets enough ultimates triggered. the animation of the ultimates may look nice in the beginning, but now used to them, they are annoying and they stop the game for 4-5 seconds every time. no fun at all. lv is a joke as a damage dealer until he gets at least his 2nd ultimate and after each ult he gains ashes of the republic for 5 turns, which prevents any ultimate charging.

Completely agree with this.Its just not a fun team at all. No Lore thought at all. Just needed a place to put Maul. Where's Chancellor Palpatine? Why not him? Why all of the bad batch? Why not make a Marquee for the Chancellor? I feel like no thought was put into his team and just wanted to add him for the high relic reqs. Isnt needed to counter Kenobi or any other team. Why make it like this?

I'm very disappointed with LV/Maul so far.He can maybe barely win against a JMK team, but at this point its too risky for me, even against weaker relic JMK teams.
In our Squad arena there is only 1 person using him, and the reason is, that he doesn't have JMK.
I don't know.. i guess i just expected more from this team.

"Kyno;c-2309678" wrote:

"SemiGod;c-2309444" wrote:
CG_Doja_Fett_MINI are the devs aware of how LV Is heavily underperforming?

They are aware of player sentiment regarding LV

Still no comment from devs? According to swgoh.gg the number of people using LV is going down. Seems to be the opposite of what the shiny new toy should be doing. Most people in my shard have switched back to mk. I'm close to doing the same.