Mace Windu...

"Abyss;30562" wrote:

"shampoo;30539" wrote:
Pros: Can do alot of damage
can remove buffs
Tanky

Cons: SLOOOOOWWW
needs defense buff up to maximize damage
SLOOOWWWW

If you use him, you gotta build your team to maxmize his abilities and leadership. Would be hard to use him with no synergy. so i guess it really depends on what you have available to use. a 7* mace would do better than a 3* tie pilot.

Thats kinda an inaccurate assessment lol ...........
Mace cant "do alot of damage" lol he hits like a girl (he is a tank so its to be expected i guess)

On that note* hes a tank yet has............
1) No taunt
2) Subpar health
3) Crud for damage
4) His buff removal is one of the most unreliable abilitys in the game
5) slow turn meter

Pros......
Yea he is just terrible so nothing comes to mind sorry lol

I would easily argue him as one of the most worthless toons in the gane and easily the too in most despirate need of a MASSIVE buff or realistically a complete retooling/redesign from the ground up

You can buff him to do +145% damage

"shampoo;30651" wrote:

"Abyss;30562" wrote:

"shampoo;30539" wrote:
Pros: Can do alot of damage
can remove buffs
Tanky

Cons: SLOOOOOWWW
needs defense buff up to maximize damage
SLOOOWWWW

If you use him, you gotta build your team to maxmize his abilities and leadership. Would be hard to use him with no synergy. so i guess it really depends on what you have available to use. a 7* mace would do better than a 3* tie pilot.

Thats kinda an inaccurate assessment lol ...........
Mace cant "do alot of damage" lol he hits like a girl (he is a tank so its to be expected i guess)

On that note* hes a tank yet has............
1) No taunt
2) Subpar health
3) Crud for damage
4) His buff removal is one of the most unreliable abilitys in the game
5) slow turn meter

Pros......
Yea he is just terrible so nothing comes to mind sorry lol

I would easily argue him as one of the most worthless toons in the gane and easily the too in most despirate need of a MASSIVE buff or realistically a complete retooling/redesign from the ground up

You can buff him to do +145% damage

That's still meh. You'll be going out of your way to buff his damage to be on par with the base of attackers who also have better utility. His unique and leadership abilities suck on top of it.

"Enterprise4691;30568" wrote:
With Ima-Gun Di, Mace could gain the defense buff to support his first skill.

Ima gun is best used as leader for his skill. Aayla and fisto are tailor made for this leader ability and work better than anyone else in this line up. The other 2 spots you would want healers, JC and lumi. You want the healers as this is a anti AoE form.

Fisto and qgj are the 2 Jedi that can fit into just about any line up. Fisto has a ton of health and hits hard. Qgj is one of the fastest characters in game, hits hard, specials have fast CD, and he has a special to remove all buffs, not just 1.

Mace brings nothing to compete with the ones mentioned.

If this is about f2p only. I would stick with jawa over mace. Atleast jawa AoE does damage.

Well my 5* Mace is doing great in Arena and PvE, so whatevs to you guys =P

No regrets here!

Mace windu has terrible damage even with defence up, terrible defence, terribly useless skills and is very slow. His only value is his hp which is still average at best for a tank. I would literally take any other tank/support over him.

In making mace windu the developers literally took a giant dump and named it after the most powerful warrior currently in the game.

In short: don't use him, Ever.

"Bigboy2004;30913" wrote:
I used him until lv 45 or so because I doesn't have anything better but he did what I needed him to but now I'm lv 59 and only use him in some challenges

Exactly

Even a toona s worthless as mace has a place but better options are literally everywhere, just get one and bench him. You wont regret it

"comandaben;30771" wrote:
Well my 5* Mace is doing great in Arena and PvE, so whatevs to you guys =P

No regrets here!

I guarantee you that no matter what toons are currently unlocked on your bench, you have well over 10+ that easily out class mace. You use him cause hes geared an they arent. Thats all. Its not that he does good for you, its that you just have yet to gear/lvl anyone stronger then what your mace currently is.

To recap, mace aint doing well for you, hes hurting your team lol hes just your current best option otherwise you'd have ditched him long ago.

My advice is to click characters, close your eyes, point to a random one thats not lvl'd or geared yet and start working on it. Whatever it is, it will out lass Mace with minimal effort (which again is sad because mace was one of the most powerful jedi ever and tgis game does him no justice at all)

"Telaan;30735" wrote:

"shampoo;30651" wrote:

"Abyss;30562" wrote:

"shampoo;30539" wrote:
Pros: Can do alot of damage
can remove buffs
Tanky

Cons: SLOOOOOWWW
needs defense buff up to maximize damage
SLOOOWWWW

If you use him, you gotta build your team to maxmize his abilities and leadership. Would be hard to use him with no synergy. so i guess it really depends on what you have available to use. a 7* mace would do better than a 3* tie pilot.

Thats kinda an inaccurate assessment lol ...........
Mace cant "do alot of damage" lol he hits like a girl (he is a tank so its to be expected i guess)

On that note* hes a tank yet has............
1) No taunt
2) Subpar health
3) Crud for damage
4) His buff removal is one of the most unreliable abilitys in the game
5) slow turn meter

Pros......
Yea he is just terrible so nothing comes to mind sorry lol

I would easily argue him as one of the most worthless toons in the gane and easily the too in most despirate need of a MASSIVE buff or realistically a complete retooling/redesign from the ground up

You can buff him to do +145% damage

That's still meh. You'll be going out of your way to buff his damage to be on par with the base of attackers who also have better utility. His unique and leadership abilities suck on top of it.

Well thats the thing, hes not an attacker, hes a tank. If they increased his base damage too much his damage potential would be too high along with his survivability and then he would be the new FOTM. You cant compare a tank's damage to something like a leia or FOTP. Also people seem to neglict him bringing 20% offense and 9% crit to a jedi team. He's just hard to build a team around especially with the speed meta.

"shampoo;31059" wrote:

"Telaan;30735" wrote:

"shampoo;30651" wrote:

"Abyss;30562" wrote:

"shampoo;30539" wrote:
Pros: Can do alot of damage
can remove buffs
Tanky

Cons: SLOOOOOWWW
needs defense buff up to maximize damage
SLOOOWWWW

If you use him, you gotta build your team to maxmize his abilities and leadership. Would be hard to use him with no synergy. so i guess it really depends on what you have available to use. a 7* mace would do better than a 3* tie pilot.

Thats kinda an inaccurate assessment lol ...........
Mace cant "do alot of damage" lol he hits like a girl (he is a tank so its to be expected i guess)

On that note* hes a tank yet has............
1) No taunt
2) Subpar health
3) Crud for damage
4) His buff removal is one of the most unreliable abilitys in the game
5) slow turn meter

Pros......
Yea he is just terrible so nothing comes to mind sorry lol

I would easily argue him as one of the most worthless toons in the gane and easily the too in most despirate need of a MASSIVE buff or realistically a complete retooling/redesign from the ground up

You can buff him to do +145% damage

That's still meh. You'll be going out of your way to buff his damage to be on par with the base of attackers who also have better utility. His unique and leadership abilities suck on top of it.

Well thats the thing, hes not an attacker, hes a tank. If they increased his base damage too much his damage potential would be too high along with his survivability and then he would be the new FOTM. You cant compare a tank's damage to something like a leia or FOTP. Also people seem to neglict him bringing 20% offense and 9% crit to a jedi team. He's just hard to build a team around especially with the speed meta.

Jedi teams are terrible in pvp. They have the most hard counters. His being a tank is a mislabel or cruel joke, which is the point of comparing him to an attacker. He has none of the aspects that define a tank in the gaming world. Even with his defense up buff he's laughably squishy.

My Poe and Finn are 6 actual levels, 3 gear levels, and 2 ability levels below my Mace. They have better DPS, better utility, and sadly the difference in hp isn't enough to make a difference. If I were to put them on par power wise, Mace would get wrecked across the board.

I applaud your defense of Mace. But he's awful.

I thought this was legit, but I'm starting to think this is a troll. But I'll bite one more time.

Mace has a good leader ability. You know who else has good Jedi leader abilities?

Qgj speed
Barriss health buff and heal each turn. Not just jedis either
Lumi Eva buff and heal each turn. Not just jedis either.
Ima gun counter attack.

All 4 leader abilities are better than mace. Take out ima gun, and them are most of the leaders you see in all PvP brackets

Trust me. I would love for mace to be better. Even be the first anti sith character. But in truth he is about the worst.