Need Advice on My Lvl 60 Phoenix Squad and Space/General Progression

For ships, try to use those ships from characters you are going to use eventually. For instance, I am farming both phoenix ships, Biggs ship and TFP ship mainly plus Vader/Boba ship when they rarely appear.

I guess your problem with arena comes from mods and stars, are you sure you are refreshing cantina energy at least 1 per day? At level 60 I had my whole phoenix squad 6*, Zeb 7* and with 5 health mods dots. If you want to improve in arena level up all of them to 5* and spend one week and a half or so trying to get tier III health mods then return to Hera/Ezra farming. Mods make the difference in arena.

Phoenix isn't weak in arena till end-game, I have seen many people lvl 75+ who still use phoenix squads. Max the whole squad to 7* and push their gear to VIII-IV (You can push Ezra to X) before making any transition.

"ManuG;c-1456704" wrote:
For ships, try to use those ships from characters you are going to use eventually. For instance, I am farming both phoenix ships, Biggs ship and TFP ship mainly plus Vader/Boba ship when they rarely appear.

The problem is, other than Phoenix, I have no idea what characters I'm going to use eventually because when I asked in my old thread what characters I might use eventually, I was basically just told "focus Phoenix." Also, it's going to be a few days at least before I can get a Phoenix ship. Also, I'll be getting them much more slowly if I can't at least get out of the lowest rank tier in fleet arena. And do I just lose 30 crystals a day until then? Remember, I only have 5 level 1 ships (basically, with the one exception I mentioned) that can't beat any challenges and can't win any arena battles, since I won't spend anything to level up any of the ships I have unless I'm advised to do so. Also, what capital ship should I use? You can see the three I have in my collection link above.

I'm going to get the Ghost first and then the Phantom (can't work on both at the same time b/c I won't have enough currency to get both unless I can get out of the lowest bracket in the arena). Does this mean I have to level up Sabine (as I mentioned in my OP I had given up on her)?

"ManuG;c-1456704" wrote:
I guess your problem with arena comes from mods and stars, are you sure you are refreshing cantina energy at least 1 per day? At level 60 I had my whole phoenix squad 6*, Zeb 7* and with 5 health mods dots. If you want to improve in arena level up all of them to 5* and spend one week and a half or so trying to get tier III health mods then return to Hera/Ezra farming. Mods make the difference in arena.

I refresh cantina energy some days but not others, because nobody ever advised me which refreshes to buy. They just said "focus Phoenix." You can see what they said in the link in my OP. So I've mostly been buying normal energy refreshes at 50 crystals each x3, and if I have a lot of crystals left over, which I rarely do, I might buy 1 cantina refresh. I have so few crystals that I can barely afford those refreshes (I'm 100% F2P). So, should I do the 1 cantina refresh a day first, and then spend whatever I have left on normal energy?

So I should equip everyone with health mods? Nobody ever advised me what mods to get so I have 3 of my guys with health mods and 2 with defense mods. What secondary stats should I focus on on which characters?

I only started focusing hardcore on Phoenix at level 41, if you look at my old thread above you can see more of my history. That and not getting much cantina energy might be why I'm behind on stars compared to you.

One area that I neglected way too long, was scoundrels. When the credit heist appears, every 10 days or so, you will want to be able to complete the highest tier that you can. You will hit a credit crunch, that will hold you back from what you want to do. Phoenix is good for Galaxy Wars, the second best place for credits.

The problem with advice is sometimes you get it from players that are higher in GP, and they will advise you on what to do to get certain characters, etc....I read your other thread, and some of the advice you were getting was prepping you for CLS and JT Rey. That is something that takes a long time, and if you get distracted, it takes even longer to get anywhere.

Crouching Rancor is a great site for Mods advice. Again, mods are something that will make or break a squad. But good mods don't come easy, and they get cost a lot of credits to upgrade. You won't get endgame mods done quickly.

"Letareus;c-1457142" wrote:


The problem is, other than Phoenix, I have no idea what characters I'm going to use eventually because when I asked in my old thread what characters I might use eventually, I was basically just told "focus Phoenix."

The META changes regularly, and nobody knows what it's going to look like in a few months. It often includes new characters that you couldn't have worked on previously because they didn't yet exist. There's never going to be any guarantee that any character or ship you work on is going to be viable a year from now. Legendary events won't change, so you at least should work towards getting the characters required to unlock any legendaries you want. Scoundrels for credit heist will always be important. The factions needed for the mod challenges for good mods are fixed. The characters needed in the current TB maps will stay the same, but we are likely to get new maps at some point that either replace or rotate with the current ones. So you can do all of that, but nobody can tell you what will be winning in your arena 6 months from now.

The current ships META largely consists of Thrawn's capital ship with Biggs, Imperial TIE, TIE Reaper, FO TIE, TIE Advanced, and Scimitar (as reinforcement). But you need more ships than that. In order to get Chimaera you need the Phoenix ships and 3 of the other 4 rebel ships. You also need strong enough light side ships to complete the Ackbar challenge.

Don't be so afraid to upgrade your ships. Right now, there just aren't that many ships, and there isn't as big of a crunch in ship credits and materials as with characters. You won't be able to get some of those end game ships yet, and you are better off having pretty decent ships like Jedi Consular, Ahsoka, and Fives, than doing nothing. In the long run you will just hamper yourself because you can't do the higher tiers of the challenges or win any fleet arena battles. Also keep in mind that the strength of your ships is largely determined by the strength of your pilots. So a ship that isn't considered as good might still be better for you because of how much you have geared and leveled those particular characters.

From what I have read from the other post, some of them gave you good steps to follow. As a quick reminder:

- Get your phoenix squad to 7* first and geared them since they will be your main arena squad and will clear your GW everyday.

- When you have all of them 5* you can try Tier III health mods challenge, spend as I said before 1-2 week getting health mods as they are mandatory to climb in arena (I say health mods because you don't need any specific squad to unlock tier III). Square will give you always as primary stat Offense, diamond defense, circle health or protection (protection is better), arrow try to get speed, triangle try to get critical chance or critical damage and for cross try to get potency or tenacity. You should focus on looking for speed in your secondary stats, speed is all in arena. Then return and push Hera/Ezra to 7*.

- For ships, keep in mind what Liath told above. Moreover, you can work on Ghost and Phantom at the same time, people in rank 501+ receives 800 fleet tokens I don't understand why you have said you can't.

- I would invest more crystals on cantina refresh rather than normal energy refresh to max them up fastly.

I am also a quite new players, I am lvl 68 atm and I have been doing prety much same as you are right now.
https://swgoh.gg/u/lakson/
So there are a few very big mistakes you said here and that you need to fix. First off, YOU NEED MODS. You are close to having your rebels to 5 stars and you can get 5 star mods then. It does not matter that they are hp mods. I did a quick calculation on my zeb and lets see what the 5 star hp mods x6 give him:
+34.07%Protection
+15%Tenacity
+12Speed
+6.4%Health
+6.18%Defense
+4.55%Potency
+4%Offense
+1.6%Critical Chance
+307Protection
+112Health
+90Offense
+15Defense
and I just slapped whatever mod looked good on him. In short, YOU MUST GET MODS. Even more important than ezra/hera shards unless you are ~10 shards short of 5 starring someone. You still get cantina tokens from mod battles so you will have no trouble leveing chopper.

I got scoundrels for cred heist (ST Han and Boba) And I have to admit that was the WORST decision I made on this account. Yeah, they are good, the creds are good, but those are 80 arena shards off my Kan and I bought 20-30 boba shards instead of chopper. I would have a signifcantly better arena standing if I did not do that (leveling a char from 6 to 7 stars gives you 3000-3500 GP so consider the jump). I made maybe a million credits off 2 heists.
A lot of people giving advice here are veterans. Playing in VETERAN SHARDS. What they say is true, but some of it does not apply to you. First off, when people say "stop focusing phoenix" they mean stop gearing them. All of them should be 7 starred. And you will play for at least 2-3 months before you come to the point of starting to drop your phoenixes. I am top 50 in my shard and ALL teams are phoenix/NS. Save for one FO whale. Dont even think about stopping phoenixes before you get at least lvl 80 and get zetas. By that time you will have a lot of 7 star characters to choose from. I am going for a empire team atm, my phoenixes are all 7 star. Not even close to gear finished.
A very strange thing I saw in my arena is that above rank 100 is a quite LOWER GP ratio of phoenix teams than below. I have seen 50k phoenix teams below 100 while above are around 46-7k. Only explanation to this I have come to is that people refuse to spend crystals on arena refreshes. Big mistake. Spend 50 gems now for 5 refreshes and you will be getting 50 extra every day from then since you boosted your rank.
As for ships, I am somehow top 20 in my squad. I did not get lucky on pulls, completely f2p. I did not listen to any guides other than getting biggs. Again, EVERYONE IS EQUAL IN FLEET. Nobody can prep for that since it is lvl 60. You will again have whales but as I said, I had no prep and top 20 np.
I started buying phoenix ships whenever I can. On side of that I am buying boba ship when I see it and tie advanced. Some char shards, do not hoard too much. Always have 400 tokens on refresh in case you see shards you need. Once you unlock phoenix ships the jump will be BIG. They heavily outweight any rebel/NS squads since lando/any NS/ all main characters for those teams dont go into ships. Yours do.
And as far as phoenix arena advise goes, I still lose sometimes due to time limitation. My opening is ALWAYS the same: Chopper dispell on other chopper to remove evasion, ezra auto, hera auto, zeb sunder auto, kannan auto. Get that chopper shield off and prepare for ezra/hera burst. If I get at least one ezra double attack I can often kill that stupid bot and then I just auto on hera/kannan/zeb/ezra last. I started expermenting using zeb to stun kannan. I save all my dispells for kannan taunt/chopper taunt. Sometimes RNG will just make you lose. Oh and those HP mods will help you in arena also by making others draw against you. It's not all about attack in arena.

Okay, here’s WHY others were (most likely) saying to focus on Phoenix: The Phoenix Squad allows you to progress toward getting one of the major end-game characters, Commander Luke Skywalker while also giving you the ability to get Grand Admiral Thrawn and Emperor Palpatine, succeed in galactic wars, and typically do well in arena (at least for a while).
The general order suggested is:
1.) Phoenix squad can get Grand Admiral Thrawn and Emperor Palpatine
2.) Five 7* Empire characters (both Thrawn and the Emperor are Empire characters, so ideally you’d only need 3 more) can get R2D2
3.) R2D2 plus 7* Old Ben, Stormtrooper Han, Princess Leia, and Farmboy Luke can get Commander Luke Skywalker, one of the best characters in the game

The most important thing in this game is the event schedule, especially the big events that the developers keep hidden until right before they start. Your arena is going to change and be highly affected by which characters are accessible. Hopefully, comparatively few players in your arena will be able to get Emperor Palpatine at 7* this time. If that’s true, then by starring and gearing up your Phoenix team, you’ll be able to get both the Emperor and Thrawn the next time they both come around. From there, just follow the farming order I wrote out and you’ll be on the road to getting end-game characters.

For arena, Phoenix can be viable up to the point where people in your shard can get 7* Palpatine-led Empire teams, which with the recent rework will likely crush Phoenix teams. However, you probably won’t have to worry about that until after the next time Palpatine comes back, so estimated 2 months from now.

For ships, you will eventually need 5 dark side ships and 5 light side ships for capital ship upgrades. In order to get Thrawn’s capital ship Chimera, you will need 5 rebel ships (not just light side, but specifically rebel). I would advise you to start starring up every ship you have that you might even consider using and farm the rest you want. This will help advance you in fleet arena and get you toward your goals. Also, I’d initially focus on getting the Ghost and Phantom II, since they are Phoenix ships and Phoenix are currently your best characters. From here on out, you want to try to match your best characters with the ships they fly. I also would specifically encourage you to farm Biggs after Zeb in galactic wars, since his ship is used everywhere. And in answer to your question about Sabine, I would farm her as much as her hard node allows. Pilots have a big impact on their ships, and Sabine is no exception.

"Letareus;d-158248" wrote:

Basically I was just told to "focus Phoenix" and I've been doing just that.



I just hit level 60 and unlocked ship battles.

The problem with farming Phoenix only is, that you won't have enough scoundrels to do the highest tier of credit heist available to you. You should as a minimum have farmed all of Boba Fett's hard nodes every day until now. He and Lando are MVPs there.

Which hard nodes did you farm while farming Phoenix in various shops and cantina? It seems like you didn't really farm much hard nodes. I'm afraid, that you have crippled yourself by leaving out farming hard nodes like:

Biggs (must—have ship and good combined with Wedge).
JC (good ship mid—game and jedi for mod challenge and Yoda)
RG (mediocre toon, but works well for unlocking R2D2 early)
FOTP (excellent ship and used to unlock BB8)
Old Daka (in case you plan on a NS team at some point).

Regarding Dark Side nodes you should have had at least Boba Fett, FOTP and Vader unlocked by now. You will unlock EP soon (or maybe not until next time his event comes around. Don't worry. Be patient and farm DS toons and you will master the DS nodes eventually. Having a few level 85 allies helps immensly. Invite some high level players from your guild.

Since you will probably use Sabine's ship in fleet arena (and later for unlocking Chimaera) you might as well level her a bit on the side.

Regarding mods, you should at least do the health and defense mod challenges at highest tier. This will make mods of better quality appear more frequently in mod shipments. Lack of focus on mods is probably one of the main reasons, you're loosing ranks in arena. Phoenix are supoosedly still good in mid—game arena. Lando/Boba teams and other Phoenix teams probably only cause you trouble because of their speed. You need to acquire arrow mods with speed primary stat and the other types of mods with speed as secondary stat.

Regarding ships, Biggs', TFP's, FOTP's and Vader's ships are must—haves. The Phoenix ships are ok as well in mid—game (but end—game tends to be dominated by DS ships with Biggs). JC's and Wedge's ships are ok mid—game. However, be aware, that you will need 5 rebel ships to unlock Chimaera (much) later on. Did you already join a fleet arena shard? If you did, you really need to get your ship farming going, if you want to stsy competitive.

"Kai_Mulai;c-1457336" wrote:
2.) Five 7* Empire characters (both Thrawn and the Emperor are Empire characters, so ideally you’d only need 3 more) can get R2D2

What are the other 3 Empire characters I should get? I assume one of them would be Boba Fett. I have Darth Vader already so it would be great if he's viable. I've seen various video guides recommend Kylo Ren, Royal Guard, Old Daka, Tie Fighter Pilot, Geonosian Soldier, IG-88, IG86, and Poggle the Lesser. Some of those recommendations are probably bad/out of date. So, which do I choose? Catharsis recommends Vader, Kylo Ren, Tarkin, and/or TFP. Would that comp (with Emperor Palpatine and Grand Admiral Thrawn) be viable endgame? What should my eventual Empire team comp be besides the 2 givens (Emperor Palpatine, Grand Admiral Thrawn)?

And thanks for all your other advice, it helps a lot.

"Kai_Mulai;c-1457336" wrote:
I would advise you to start starring up every ship you have that you might even consider using and farm the rest you want. This will help advance you in fleet arena and get you toward your goals. ....
I also would specifically encourage you to farm Biggs after Zeb in galactic wars, since his ship is used everywhere. And in answer to your question about Sabine, I would farm her as much as her hard node allows. Pilots have a big impact on their ships, and Sabine is no exception.

From the feedback I received in this thread, specifically Liath's post, I started leveling up the Jedi Consular ship and the Imperial Tie Fighter. Out of the 5 free ships, those are the 2 that I might consider using, let me know if I should consider using the other 3 (Resistance X-Wing, Geonosian Soldier's starfighter, and Clone Sergeant's ARC-170). I also leveled up Executrix slightly because my Tarkin is slightly leveled up.

Also, does this mean I should start leveling up the Jedi Consular and Tie Fighter Pilot again? I was specifically advised NOT to do so in my old thread. I doubt I have the spare resources to do so atm.

Thanks for answering my question about Sabine! I've been wondering about that for a while. And only you and Waqui answered that. And I will start farming Biggs now (I just 7 starred Zeb), though it may be a while before I can get his fighter.

"Liath;c-1457253" wrote:
The META changes regularly, and nobody knows what it's going to look like in a few months. It often includes new characters that you couldn't have worked on previously because they didn't yet exist. There's never going to be any guarantee that any character or ship you work on is going to be viable a year from now.

I realize that just like in an MMORPG, the relative power of every class/ship is always subject to nerfs/change. And there will always be a chance of new overpowered characters being introduced, or an old character becoming the new FOTM. But I still need good information on the current situation so I can make the best, most informed decision I can make. For example, without the advice in the previous thread, I probably would have continued to invest some resources into Clone Wars Chewbacca, Kylo Ren, and Jedi Consular, which I realize now would have been a waste. And the advice you've given here helps a lot too, thanks!

"Liath;c-1457253" wrote:
The current ships META largely consists of Thrawn's capital ship with Biggs, Imperial TIE, TIE Reaper, FO TIE, TIE Advanced, and Scimitar (as reinforcement). But you need more ships than that. In order to get Chimaera you need the Phoenix ships and 3 of the other 4 rebel ships. You also need strong enough light side ships to complete the Ackbar challenge.

Thanks, that helps a lot. Because of your advice and the advice of others, I've started leveling up some of my ships, specifically, the Imperial Tie and Jedi Consular as I said above.

"ManuG;c-1457302" wrote:
- When you have all of them 5* you can try Tier III health mods challenge, spend as I said before 1-2 week getting health mods as they are mandatory to climb in arena (I say health mods because you don't need any specific squad to unlock tier III). Square will give you always as primary stat Offense, diamond defense, circle health or protection (protection is better), arrow try to get speed, triangle try to get critical chance or critical damage and for cross try to get potency or tenacity. You should focus on looking for speed in your secondary stats, speed is all in arena. Then return and push Hera/Ezra to 7*.

- For ships, keep in mind what Liath told above. Moreover, you can work on Ghost and Phantom at the same time, people in rank 501+ receives 800 fleet tokens I don't understand why you have said you can't..

Thanks, this mod advice is exactly what I wanted to know. The reason I can't work on Ghost and Phantom at the same time is because the shops reset 3x a day, so I can potentially spend 1200 tokens on Ghost in a single day if it happens to show up 3x.

"Waqui;c-1457394" wrote:
The problem with farming Phoenix only is, that you won't have enough scoundrels to do the highest tier of credit heist available to you. You should as a minimum have farmed all of Boba Fett's hard nodes every day until now. He and Lando are MVPs there.

Which hard nodes did you farm while farming Phoenix in various shops and cantina? It seems like you didn't really farm much hard nodes....

Yeah, you're right I don't do much hard mode. WIth my normal energy, I've been farming mostly normal battles to gear up my Phoenix toons with equipment faster. I've been pretty much only been doing 5x Hard Mode battles a day for the daily task. Those 5 used to be Sabine, and after I unlocked Sabine I've been doing 5x Boba Fett. Now I might have to do Sabine again.

So yeah, I was aware of the importance of Boba Fett, but wasn't focusing on him very hard, due to advice from the previous thread. Also, on days where my guild activity is Hard Mode battles, I would do more Hard Mode battles. As per your advice, I will start doing more hard mode battles so I can get Boba Fett faster, and then Lando who was also on my to-do list after Boba.

"Waqui;c-1457394" wrote:
Regarding Dark Side nodes you should have had at least Boba Fett, FOTP and Vader unlocked by now. You will unlock EP soon (or maybe not until next time his event comes around. Don't worry. Be patient and farm DS toons and you will master the DS nodes eventually. Having a few level 85 allies helps immensly. Invite some high level players from your guild..

I've already been doing the dark side battles by being carried by my high level allies. The problem is, I can't 3 star the battles to sim them because my own characters get killed, even if I only bring 1 or 2 of them. I do have Darth Vader and First Order Tie Pilot. I leveled up Darth Vader a bit, but haven't touched the FOTP yet.

Since you will probably use Sabine's ship in fleet arena (and later for unlocking Chimaera) you might as well level her a bit on the side.

"catharsis478;c-1457374" wrote:
I think your problem here is tunnel vision, OP.

I scrolled through the thread you linked, and it seems as though everyone who responded to you wrote out long, in-depth, and thoughtful responses (and/or linked multiple videos along those lines) to try to help you out. If all you got from all of that is "focus on Phoenix squad to exclusion of all else" then the problem here lies not necessarily with the advice given to you, but your attempt at following it. Now, I am not going to waste my time actually reading that thread--and will immediately stop attempting to help you should you ask me to--because I don't really believe you're actually interested in being helped, but I'm going to try anyway.

I'm not asking you to read the old thread. I only posted it for reference for those who wanted to look at it. But I have to push back on some of the things you said because they are clearly misconceptions. First, all the videos posted in that thread were posted BY ME. Second, I was the one in my old thread who was asking questions about all these other characters, but was repeatedly directed to focus on Phoenix. Here are a couple of the most egregious examples.

"Dooku_for_days;c-1423888" wrote:
Before you know it you'll be working on 50 characters. Just purely focus Phoenix.

"Naraic;c-1424254" wrote:
You focus on a single team you max it 22-30 days. You split your focus going all over the world you spend months.

And I actually have deviated from a pure Phoenix focus a bit - I haven't been dogmatic - I have been working on Boba Fett, just very slowly (he takes 80 shards to unlock which takes forever), because I've been prioritizing gear for Phoenix more. I've also leveled up several Empire toons in a mostly failed attempt to 3 star the dark side battles that my borrowed ally characters have been carrying me through.

I'm not sure why you believe I'm not actually interested in being helped. But I can tell you that the advice I've already gotten in this thread has been invaluable and I can tell you specifically things that I learned and what I'll be doing differently because of that:
1. I'll be working on Sabine again because of the advice here; I had stopped after unlocking her.
2. I started leveling up some of my ships now that I know which ships are most likely to be useful in the long run. (Imperial Tie Fighter, Jedi Consular)
3. I have a revised long term plan for Phoenix progression - get all toons to 5 stars first, then spend a week or two focusing on mods for them. Then go back to focusing on stars.
4. I now know what mods to get for Phoenix (the highest level health mods I can get) - I had no clue before. Also, I know what secondaries to shoot for due to the information provided here.
5. I learned that mod challenges exist and how to unlock them.
6. I have a plan for ship progression - unlock both Phoenix ships, level up Imperial Tie Fighter, try to get Biggs' fighter and the FO Tie ASAP, get TIE Reaper and Tie Advanced when I can, get several other rebel fighters (though not sure which ones yet).
7. I'm going to try to do more Hard Mode battles to unlock Boba Fett sooner.
8. I should be spending my crystals on cantina refreshes more than normal energy refreshes. I had previously spent them mostly on normal energy refreshes.

"catharsis478;c-1457374" wrote:
Before I go on, let's talk about your BIGGEST PROBLEM which is a complete lack of Scoundrels. A lack of scoundrels explains quite a bit why you're in such a bad position, and having such problems advancing in the game. You're probably constantly out of resources and credits, and the reason why? No scoundrels! I'm going to say you immediately stop (do not make me capitalize and bold that; I will if I have to) farming Phoenix and work on unlocking (don't go further than that for now, you won't need a higher star level until much later) some Scoundrels.

I actually have no problem with credits at all right now. I believe you and others when you say that credits will eventually be a problem. But at the moment, I have 6.4 million credits, all of my Phoenix toons except Sabine are at max level (61 atm), several other characters are at pretty high level, and I have nothing else I need to spend credits on atm. The mods that I have are all at max level (15). I buy the cheap equipment with gear in shipments every refresh. Is there something else I can buy with credits that I'm missing here?

As I've said, I've decided to spend more resources on unlocking Boba Fett, but unless I'm actually in a credit crunch, I'm not sure why I need to drop everything and go all out on unlocking scoundrels. Consider this counter argument from someone on this very thread:

"LaksonVell;c-1457320" wrote:
I got scoundrels for cred heist (ST Han and Boba) And I have to admit that was the WORST decision I made on this account. Yeah, they are good, the creds are good, but those are 80 arena shards off my Kan and I bought 20-30 boba shards instead of chopper. I would have a signifcantly better arena standing if I did not do that (leveling a char from 6 to 7 stars gives you 3000-3500 GP so consider the jump). I made maybe a million credits off 2 heists.

I do plan on getting Scoundrels eventually, I'm just not sure I want to drop everything and go all out on them right now.

"catharsis478;c-1457374" wrote:
Now, if you decide to go Empire then your Phoenix team will give you two of the five--Emperor Palpatine and Grand Admiral Thrawn--achievements will give you another--Vader--and Fleet mastery events will give you another--Grand Moff Tarkin--so it'll be up to you to take a look at your farms and one that will not interfere with what you're already working on. In the mean time you'll just have to make due with a haphazard mixture of your existing roster. Looking at what you have, I suggest: Vader, Tarkin, Kylo, and two others. If I remember correctly Royal Guard is quite squishy and Talia's healing starts to feel ineffective about your level, so you may consider dropping them entirely. You may also consider using your Tie Fighter Pilot--you'll need him for his ship, and for ships you have to invest in your pilots--and your First Order Executioner. This team is going to die quickly, will probably handle like wet tissue, so you either have to go all-in on the glass canon model, or pause your cantina farm long enough to unlock Kylo Ren (Unmasked). KRU is a very solid tank at lower levels--he's only just now starting to feel squishy to me--and you'll want to drop Tarkin if you're going to use him.

This is great info, thanks. I've been wondering which of my dark side characters were viable, and now thanks to you I can put together a team if I badly need to 3 star a dark side battle with what I have.

"catharsis478;c-1457374" wrote:
Let's talk about mods next; whichever problems you're having in the arena are probably down to mods (if it isn't the team make up, gear, or ability levels it's mods). You're going to want to unlock Mod Challenges, which means you have to complete the first three maps of the Mod Battle table. Next, you're going to want to take your Nix team and go into Mod Challenges, select the Health Mod Challenge, and get as close to three-starring tier III as you can (if you can't yet, it's no sweat). You'll be farming all your mods from this location until much later game; prioritize leveling and using any mods with speed on them (speed mods go on your arena team; for Phoenix prioritize slapping that speed on Ezra, Hera, Chopper/Zeb, and Kanan, in that order). At your current level I wouldn't suggest spending more than a weekend's worth of Cantina energy on Mods; your other farms take priority.

Now for ships: you will eventually need (by level 80) five (8 might be better) dark side ships at five or more stars; you'll need these for upgrading Tarkin's ship past four stars, and for the zeta ability material challenge. Next you're going to want five rebel ships at at least five stars (seven is better); you'll need them for unlocking Chimaera and upgrading Home One and Endurance. For Chimaera your Home One will have to be at least 5 stars to unlock, and you'll need it at 7 stars to 7 star Chimaera (five rebel ships at the same level). Prioritize dark side ships, then work on your rebels. From these two sets of ships you should be able to build a decent fleet arena team (other people will have more advice on getting a meta fleet team; I honestly don't care that much about ships). It is worth noting you will have to level, gear, and eventually star up your pilots to have the most effective use of your ships.

I was trying to figure out what you were talking about, then I realized that mod challenges are something I haven't unlocked yet lol. I've been spending 90% of my cantina energy on stars for Hera and Ezra and only did the first 2 tiers of mod battles. Thanks for making me aware of this!

The rest of this is all extremely useful info. I would need more convincing on Scoundrels, though, since I don't yet have a problem with credits.

Once you start farming mods you will hit the credit crunch.

It costs roughly half a million credits to upgrade a 5 dot mod to level 15. If you only do mods for your arena team you need 30 mods.

Then the cost of each level increases as your level increases.

In your last post you appear to be mixing up dark side and empire. There are numerous dark side factions. Kylo ren is first order not empire, boba fett is a bounty hunter not empire.

As to what empire characters you need well tarkin and tfp are needed for ships so I would work on them anyway then add a tank (storm trooper or Royal guard).

That said Vader Palpatine and Thrawn are key to any top tier empire team. So there's 6 to work on.