Palpatine "Heal" Ability - Collateral Effects

So question is if they all have protection is he removing protection or health?

The others based or wording of the abilities sth and Savage should trigger as it states simply takes damage. Biggs specifically states Empire enemy so his shouldn't.

Hopefully kosi can clear it up.

"scuba;623194" wrote:
So question is if they all have protection is he removing protection or health?

The others based or wording of the abilities sth and Savage should trigger as it states simply takes damage. Biggs specifically states Empire enemy so his shouldn't.

Hopefully kosi can clear it up.

Nvm I'm an idiot lol

"scuba;623194" wrote:
So question is if they all have protection is he removing protection or health?

The others based or wording of the abilities sth and Savage should trigger as it states simply takes damage. Biggs specifically states Empire enemy so his shouldn't.

Hopefully kosi can clear it up.

It damages Protection first. In my run of GW it always hit protections first.

"Alsend_Drake;623350" wrote:


It damages Protection first. In my run of GW it always hit protections first.

Nope, I made a GW test run, just to see how it works and Palpatine removed health and left protection untouched. Biggs got instantly his TM and evasion up.

Palpating ability description also says "lose 5% of their Max Health" not get damage equal to 5% of their max health.

No, by that logic any Expose attack would knock the HELL out of it. :(

It is much less than that. Looking at dot level damage which also do 5% hp damage.

"NDSnyder;623401" wrote:

"Alsend_Drake;623350" wrote:


It damages Protection first. In my run of GW it always hit protections first.

Nope, I made a GW test run, just to see how it works and Palpatine removed health and left protection untouched. Biggs got instantly his TM and evasion up.

Palpating ability description also says "lose 5% of their Max Health" not get damage equal to 5% of their max health.

Good. I was hoping since they fixed talia they would get this one right

"DathchaMeta;623731" wrote:

"Josh_K;62987" wrote:
So it seems Palpatines "Let the Hate Flow" heal ability damages all units on the battlefield. This also triggers on-damage uniques on your own team. Some prominent examples are:

• St Han - TM Gain
  
• Savage Opress - TM gain and Offense Up + Defense Up
  
• Biggs Unique - 100% TM gain
  
• B2 - 100% TM gain (this one is unconfirmed)
  

The caveat here is that the AI will treat this as a heal and only do so if Palpatine is lower than .

Unclear if WAI or if these are bugs at this point.

@CG_Kozispoon

What happens when Fives is on your team? Does he counter Palp?

No, so it shouldnt work for some toons and not others. Its a bug.

Counters are different. There are a variety of scenarios in which damage doesn't proc a counter, like assist attacks and stealth attacks. It's possible that they designed Palp's special to look like an assist to avoid counters.

This sounds like a very complicated bug to fix. Probably has to do with underlying game mechanics and the coding of the ability itself.

"Nightroad_DG;629822" wrote:

"Aero;624081" wrote:
Only one that's a bug is Biggs since it clearly states Empire enemy. Every other listed situation seems to be working as intended.

Emperor has the Empire tag, so the Biggs skill works fine, although I doubt it's supposed to be triggered that way.

Except when Biggs is on the same team as the Palpatine, Palptine is not an empire enemy, therefore not WAI.