Please do something about these GG nuke squads

"mikk207;c-1972718" wrote:

"Woodroward;c-1972685" wrote:

"mikk207;c-1972643" wrote:

"Woodroward;c-1972634" wrote:

"Cardiff0;c-1972581" wrote:
My god you guys hunt in packs.

Firstly my nuke team took about 15 minutes to mod. I didn’t even have to change GG’s mods I just built around it so I can use sep droids too. I have an average/not that good mod collection.

Also how is this a hard counter to Drevan? What does Drevan do that this counters in particular? Ferocity makes almost no difference. It’s just a strong team that beats darth revan, and other comps as far I can see.

And sorry but this team is clearly unintentional. It just came up as a result of a whole game of character kits being basically uncontrollable. I just think you guys are the ones protecting your investment, if anyone. You don’t want anyone nerfing your droid team. And don’t worry it will never happen so calm down.

You also want counters, which is very true there should be counters, but I don’t think there’s really meant to be counters apart from padme. They don’t care about game balance. For almost two years now the meta has been like 90% dominated by one team. They made that team OP and super dominant so whales would buy it. The clone squad and this GG team rely on one character with huge damage getting ticked off. Can’t you see the game is not in balance as a result of DR and relics? These are not healthy, direct counters to a team, the game is in a mess and relics only exacerbated that with insane damage, all types of battles are lasting like a minute with very little strategy. These are not good, healthy game mechanics like the rest of the game has. The game at the top level has become uncontrollable.

There's nothing unintended about the synergy in a nuke team They started giving all these droids target lock knowing that the pieces could fit together. It was intentional that all these droids were on the same team. It just wasn't a viable team until GG hit g13. But the target lock pretty much guarantees that they way these guys interact is intentional.

you mean intended like palp lead was destroying drevan/malak ?
zfinn destroying hstr and jkr ?
zombie anakin interaction ?
the list goes on, I am sure they know what sideeffects they are creating

What I mean is that they created the target lock synergy to be used with droids together. The droids that are being used here are the majority of the target lock droids outside of Sep droids. They clearly intended GG to be the mainstay of every single droid team with his rework.

So they gave all these droids synergy with each other through target lock (well not bb, but he is a droid teams go first mechanism), and you're telling me they did it without intending them to be used together?

I find it super far fetched that this team is an "unintended interaction" unlike most of the ones you listed.

well, then we have a different point of view.
I dont think this specific interaction was foreseen by cg as many other interactions were not foreseen by cg.

but only cg knows the truth

I mean I know the truth, not gonna try prove it or argue about it but i think it’s pretty obvious

Generally I think a lot of people assume CG are perfectly in control of the strategy and power in this game but I really don’t think they are. I have to say it must be super hard to make a game like this where the concept of units must match with their lore, yet balance must be kept while all the units are interacting with each other. However I don’t think they ever did themselves any favours.

Zfinn, JKA/NS, those were obviously unintended interactions. Do you know how they got by?

They are cross faction interactions.

GG Nuke team is same faction interaction. Droids balance has been watched with a fine tooth comb for years because of HK (by their own words) who didn't get reworked until all of the other reworks had been in place. They straight up said they knew what g13 would bring when they reworked GG which is why he was lackluster back then.

They would have had to have been completely blind to anything to not foresee this team working this way. I'm sure they did, and they won't do anything because there is nothing game breaking about it.

Do you know that's actually when people started running this team? When GG got reworked.... before DR. It just wasn't effective until g13.

There's no way they didn't foresee people running these teams that were the very first go to composition with droids that every droid fanatic was trying after the sep droids faction pass and HK's rework.

"Woodroward;c-1972820" wrote:
Zfinn, JKA/NS, those were obviously unintended interactions. Do you know how they got by?

They are cross faction interactions.

GG Nuke team is same faction interaction. Droids balance has been watched with a fine tooth comb for years because of HK (by their own words) who didn't get reworked until all of the other reworks had been in place. They straight up said they knew what g13 would bring when they reworked GG which is why he was lackluster back then.

They would have had to have been completely blind to anything to not foresee this team working this way. I'm sure they did, and they won't do anything because there is nothing game breaking about it.

Do you know that's actually when people started running this team? When GG got reworked.... before DR. It just wasn't effective until g13.

There's no way they didn't foresee people running these teams that were the very first go to composition with droids that every droid fanatic was trying after the sep droids faction pass and HK's rework.

I mean their foresight is not exactly formidable.

A million and one examples, but they didn’t even notice the flagrantly blatant Cody loop when they reworked clones. This is much more off brand than that. As I said can’t really be bothered to argue this but I definitely disagree

"Woodroward;c-1972820" wrote:
Zfinn, JKA/NS, those were obviously unintended interactions. Do you know how they got by?

They are cross faction interactions.

GG Nuke team is same faction interaction. Droids balance has been watched with a fine tooth comb for years because of HK (by their own words) who didn't get reworked until all of the other reworks had been in place. They straight up said they knew what g13 would bring when they reworked GG which is why he was lackluster back then.

They would have had to have been completely blind to anything to not foresee this team working this way. I'm sure they did, and they won't do anything because there is nothing game breaking about it.

Do you know that's actually when people started running this team? When GG got reworked.... before DR. It just wasn't effective until g13.

There's no way they didn't foresee people running these teams that were the very first go to composition with droids that every droid fanatic was trying after the sep droids faction pass and HK's rework.

I absolutely disagree.
when cg released drevan/malak they didnt see something obvious like
palp lead gaining tons of turnmeter and palp was partly meta at that time if I remember correctly.

so they build some anti palp lead into malak after releasing malak.

and you really think they expected a team like ig 88 lead with t3, gg and bb8 to start with turnmeter ?
when they are not able to foresee a palp lead gaining tm from debuffs ?

very far fetched, but like I said, everyone has their right to their own opinion

haven't read whole thread but bast lead jkr squad lols at gg nuke squad

"TVF;c-1972237" wrote:

"C_Augustus1;c-1972234" wrote:
DR mirror matches are decided by who has the fastest BSF.

I see this :alot: and it's not correct.

faster than whom?

"Gifafi;c-1972905" wrote:

"TVF;c-1972237" wrote:

"C_Augustus1;c-1972234" wrote:
DR mirror matches are decided by who has the fastest BSF.

I see this :alot: and it's not correct.

faster than whom?

What?

"TVF;c-1972934" wrote:

"Gifafi;c-1972905" wrote:

"TVF;c-1972237" wrote:

"C_Augustus1;c-1972234" wrote:
DR mirror matches are decided by who has the fastest BSF.

I see this :alot: and it's not correct.

faster than whom?

What?

faster than whom? what wasn't clear? dbast or gmy? (to save time)

"Fastest BSF" means two BSF, one is faster than the other. GMY has nothing to do with the comment.

"TVF;c-1972947" wrote:
"Fastest BSF" means two BSF, one is faster than the other. GMY has nothing to do with the comment.

oh you meant if drev is faster? my bad. that is correct