Please do something about these GG nuke squads

"SoonerJBD;c-1965554" wrote:

"212Attack;c-1965540" wrote:
Sounds like the OP is someone in this ridiculous shard chat that should be guaranteed a top 10 spot. Thing is this post is exactly whats wrong with shard discords. WAHH WAHH WAHHHHHH!!! someone is wrecking my lame **** DR malak cancer... WAHH!!!

Whether you are in a shard chat is irrelevant. I have worked hard to G13 appropriate toons, accumulate mods that make my key toons the fastest in my shard and learn the mechanics to beat in-game content. I find it disconcerting that someone with 2 million less GP who has one G13 and atrocious mods should be able to climb to Top 10. It makes the top spots meaningless. If you want to climb to the top of the arena, it should require you do the work to earn a spot among the better players in your shard. Or alternatively to least spend the money to pay for everyone else’s enjoyment of the game (this is not a thread about the game’s business model, so I concede spending as an alternative).

Sounds to me like the problem is you wanted your team to be the steam roller. You banked on it (literally) and you picked the wrong team. Because meta is gonna change... sounds crazy I know. You sound pisssd because the stonewall meta we've seen for months is disrupted and you don't feel like you got your money's worth so you wanna complain and get a new frontrunner nerfed to satisfy your wounded wallet. It's childish and petulant. What makes you think there are guarantee in this game. You know-how to fix it? Build up you GG team. OH WAIT things might change by then! I wanna pay for my top 10 spot and have it reserved for me!! Well someone else got lucky this time. Boohoo.

"GrandMasterNexus;c-1966493" wrote:

"SoonerJBD;c-1965554" wrote:

"212Attack;c-1965540" wrote:
Sounds like the OP is someone in this ridiculous shard chat that should be guaranteed a top 10 spot. Thing is this post is exactly whats wrong with shard discords. WAHH WAHH WAHHHHHH!!! someone is wrecking my lame **** DR malak cancer... WAHH!!!

Whether you are in a shard chat is irrelevant. I have worked hard to G13 appropriate toons, accumulate mods that make my key toons the fastest in my shard and learn the mechanics to beat in-game content. I find it disconcerting that someone with 2 million less GP who has one G13 and atrocious mods should be able to climb to Top 10. It makes the top spots meaningless. If you want to climb to the top of the arena, it should require you do the work to earn a spot among the better players in your shard. Or alternatively to least spend the money to pay for everyone else’s enjoyment of the game (this is not a thread about the game’s business model, so I concede spending as an alternative).

Sounds to me like the problem is you wanted your team to be the steam roller. You banked on it (literally) and you picked the wrong team. Because meta is gonna change... sounds crazy I know. You sound pisssd because the stonewall meta we've seen for months is disrupted and you don't feel like you got your money's worth so you wanna complain and get a new frontrunner nerfed to satisfy your wounded wallet. It's childish and petulant. What makes you think there are guarantee in this game. You know-how to fix it? Build up you GG team. OH WAIT things might change by then! I wanna pay for my top 10 spot and have it reserved for me!! Well someone else got lucky this time. Boohoo.

To quote Mr. Skywalker... Everything you just said was wrong.

My SE team dominated for a long time. I didn’t fall out of the Top 10 for over a month. I could run GG nuke if I wanted. I sometimes switch between SE and Padme squads because I like using different teams, and I’m still not falling out of the Top 20. I’m perfectly happy to see a new meta. The SE meta has been around long enough. My complaint is very simply that any meta should require you actually gear your entire squad and acquire competitive mods. Teams with a majority of purple gear on their toons do not belong at the top of arena. I think that is pretty reasonable.

For those that don't like the gg nuke team, it won't last long once the meta shifts. It requires the opponent to have lowered defense from ferocity to work.

The next meta likely won't have that so gg nuke teams will lose their usefulness when that happens.

In the meantime it isn't breaking the game. We have 2 in our shard out of the top 50. Over 40 are still darth revan teams. I switch in ep, triumvirate, and dark bastilla and never lose vs r7 gg. Dark bastilla is r2 but the rest are just g12. So pretty easy to beat on offense.

I personally like it just for the fact that it gives me a battle or two that aren't the same as all the others.

"DarkHelmet1138;c-1971974" wrote:
For those that don't like the gg nuke team, it won't last long once the meta shifts. It requires the opponent to have lowered defense from ferocity to work.

The next meta likely won't have that so gg nuke teams will lose their usefulness when that happens.

In the meantime it isn't breaking the game. We have 2 in our shard out of the top 50. Over 40 are still darth revan teams. I switch in ep, triumvirate, and dark bastilla and never lose vs r7 gg. Dark bastilla is r2 but the rest are just g12. So pretty easy to beat on offense.

I personally like it just for the fact that it gives me a battle or two that aren't the same as all the others.

Consider that your shard may not be representative. My shard has at least a dozen GG nuke squads climbing daily in the Top 50. Several are run by people who have 2 million GP in a shard that is four years old. I’d be fine if it was just one more squad good players could optionally run. But it is serving as a shortcut for bad players to climb.

"SoonerJBD;c-1972015" wrote:

"DarkHelmet1138;c-1971974" wrote:
For those that don't like the gg nuke team, it won't last long once the meta shifts. It requires the opponent to have lowered defense from ferocity to work.

The next meta likely won't have that so gg nuke teams will lose their usefulness when that happens.

In the meantime it isn't breaking the game. We have 2 in our shard out of the top 50. Over 40 are still darth revan teams. I switch in ep, triumvirate, and dark bastilla and never lose vs r7 gg. Dark bastilla is r2 but the rest are just g12. So pretty easy to beat on offense.

I personally like it just for the fact that it gives me a battle or two that aren't the same as all the others.

Consider that your shard may not be representative. My shard has at least a dozen GG nuke squads climbing daily in the Top 50. Several are run by people who have 2 million GP in a shard that is four years old. I’d be fine if it was just one more squad good players could optionally run. But it is serving as a shortcut for bad players to climb.

If you have a decent team, you shouldn't have any problem beating them.

Yes the number may vary from shard to shard. But that really doesn't change my analysis.

And roster GP is a poor indication on how well someone can do in arena, considering one team of about 120k or 130-140k with relics is really all you need to take first. You need one set of mods for that team and enough gear for one team.

A 2 mil gp player in a 4yr old shard likely took some time off but if thery returned and farmed darth revan and jkr, it is easily possible for them to eventually het back up to arena even without the gg nuke team.

And the factvthat they aren't as committed time wise to the game (took a break) or haven't spent as much money as you doesn't mean they are bad players.

"DarkHelmet1138;c-1972025" wrote:

"SoonerJBD;c-1972015" wrote:

"DarkHelmet1138;c-1971974" wrote:
For those that don't like the gg nuke team, it won't last long once the meta shifts. It requires the opponent to have lowered defense from ferocity to work.

The next meta likely won't have that so gg nuke teams will lose their usefulness when that happens.

In the meantime it isn't breaking the game. We have 2 in our shard out of the top 50. Over 40 are still darth revan teams. I switch in ep, triumvirate, and dark bastilla and never lose vs r7 gg. Dark bastilla is r2 but the rest are just g12. So pretty easy to beat on offense.

I personally like it just for the fact that it gives me a battle or two that aren't the same as all the others.

Consider that your shard may not be representative. My shard has at least a dozen GG nuke squads climbing daily in the Top 50. Several are run by people who have 2 million GP in a shard that is four years old. I’d be fine if it was just one more squad good players could optionally run. But it is serving as a shortcut for bad players to climb.

If you have a decent team, you shouldn't have any problem beating them.

Don't think they care about that, just wants to sit top 20 all day because "bad players" don't deserve it.

Never seen so many strawmen in my life. It’s not about where I fall every day. It’s not about whether I can beat these squads. I finish first every day regardless. I have for years at this point. My complaint is that people should have to gear a team and acquire competitive mods to get to the top of arena. That’s it. Team comps that allow purple gear and crappy mods to reach the top of the arena are a problem. It undermines the competitive purpose of arena. Arena is not supposed to give you max crystals like it’s a participation trophy in a youth soccer league. Arena is supposed to be competitive. It is supposed to require you to farm the best teams, max out their gear and farm competitive mods.

There's a lot of "supposed to's" in there that are all your interpretation of what arena is "supposed" to be.

"TVF;c-1972046" wrote:
There's a lot of "supposed to's" in there that are all your interpretation of what arena is "supposed" to be.

Please let me hear your argument that arena is intended to be non-competitive, and that anyone who fires the game up should be able to claim first every day. I mean, clearly they didn’t intend a PvP arena that gives rewards progressively to the highest ranks to involve competing to be the best in your shard. ?

"SoonerJBD;c-1972043" wrote:
Never seen so many strawmen in my life.

This is quite ironic in the light of the post you just made.

Enjoy the rest of your Tuesday.