Replacing Old Ben with Chopper as a Rebel Tank

"yuuzhanron;c-1420704" wrote:
The only issue I actually see with this, is that Chopper is not actually a tank. That's fine mostly, but the issue comes in with Ezra's Watch and Learn, because he can get extra protection from a tank, so that'll be missing, but on the bright side Chopper will provide TM. That would be the biggest pitfall I see with this.

Does anyone really ever used Watch and Learn on anything but a support? That 60% TM for Ezra, 40% for support is too good to pass up on. Once in a great while Zeb gets it if I really need someone dazed or stunned.

"ProximaB1_;c-1421161" wrote:

"Lesspopmorefizz;c-1420251" wrote:

"ProximaB1_;c-1419322" wrote:

"Lesspopmorefizz;c-1419310" wrote:
Chopper has a taunt. He isn’t a tank.

It’s there to pull aggro momentarily when you know a power move like a fracture from Thrawn or CLS’s dispel/BI combo is coming in. He can’t and won’t take sustained damage, but he adds a lot of control to a team.

With that logic only old been is a tank. Everyone else gets fractured and is irrelevant.

No, because lots of other tanks have tools to get back to taunt ASAP and keep it up.

Ignore fracture in the equation if you like. The point of Chopper isn’t to take sustained hits. The point of chopper is to take a hit or two for a breif moment. It’s a different utility.

No tank besides old ben deals with fracture at all. That is the only reason some use old ben over gk. Because even go can't handle fracture. Any insight on what other tank handles fracture even a little I would be very interested in. Let me know your secret against fracture.

Right. This is why I said “set fracture aside”.

Chopper can replace a tank if your idea of what a tank is for is “eat fracture”

This is not even close to he full extent of what actual good tanks are for.

(This is different from saying chopper is not a good character. He’s great. But hes not a tank. And it shows.)

"ProximaB1_;c-1421161" wrote:

"Lesspopmorefizz;c-1420251" wrote:

"ProximaB1_;c-1419322" wrote:

"Lesspopmorefizz;c-1419310" wrote:
Chopper has a taunt. He isn’t a tank.

It’s there to pull aggro momentarily when you know a power move like a fracture from Thrawn or CLS’s dispel/BI combo is coming in. He can’t and won’t take sustained damage, but he adds a lot of control to a team.

With that logic only old been is a tank. Everyone else gets fractured and is irrelevant.

No, because lots of other tanks have tools to get back to taunt ASAP and keep it up.

Ignore fracture in the equation if you like. The point of Chopper isn’t to take sustained hits. The point of chopper is to take a hit or two for a breif moment. It’s a different utility.

No tank besides old ben deals with fracture at all. That is the only reason some use old ben over gk. Because even go can't handle fracture. Any insight on what other tank handles fracture even a little I would be very interested in. Let me know your secret against fracture.

zombie... death gets rid of fracture.

"ProximaB1_;c-1419277" wrote:
I actually use r2 and chopper together in a squad in tw. He gets taunt a lot with that combo because of the extra attack from r2s turn. Choppers attack gives a buff plus a chance to reduce Droid or Phoenix cooldowns. Never tried it with an additional Phoenix Ally though.

The number of Phoenix and droid allies in the comp doesn't change how often someone's CDs get reduced because it gives an equal increase in CD reduction chance for each additional member of those factions due to an increased chance to assist.

To put it another way, everyone whose CDs can be reduced by Chopper will average having their CDs reduced the same amount regardless of how many droids and/or Phoenix are in comp.