Rework: Cad Bane

I think there may be some more to this rework than most have thought. With Qi'ra becoming farmable recently, i decided to see what works well under her lead ability. When i saw Cad Bane's rework, i initially thought it was average. not great not bad, just made him playable and he could survive longer. But after I looked at the synergy between Qi'ra and Cad Bane, it was surpising. Cad Bane gains a lot more survivability under Qi'ra! he'll crit all the time under her lead (his 30% from unique + 20% from Qi'ra lead + mods/base crit chance). He lands debuffs now and that gives him more survival ability with his unique. Qi'ra turns this rather slow bounty hunter into a pretty fast one for this one simple reason.....he's a support character. Unlike a majority of other bounty hunters who are attackers, Cad Bane is unique in that he is a support. So under Qi'ra lead, every time he crits he's gaining +20 speed which will stack up to +60 speed, giving him a speed of 185 before mods. Pretty fast! The synergy between Qi'ras Joint Operation SA and Cad Bane is really good to, making the good effects in that attack benefit both Qi'ra and Cad.

There is something to this rework, it just isn't obvious. I'm sure there are some other cool combos and syenrgies out there, so it'll be fun to see what people come up with. This is just one of the ideas i discovered so i thought i'd share it with you all.

"obikenobi1;c-1633241" wrote:
I think there may be some more to this rework than most have thought. With Qi'ra becoming farmable recently, i decided to see what works well under her lead ability. When i saw Cad Bane's rework, i initially thought it was average. not great not bad, just made him playable and he could survive longer. But after I looked at the synergy between Qi'ra and Cad Bane, it was surpising. Cad Bane gains a lot more survivability under Qi'ra! he'll crit all the time under her lead (his 30% from unique + 20% from Qi'ra lead + mods/base crit chance). He lands debuffs now and that gives him more survival ability with his unique. Qi'ra turns this rather slow bounty hunter into a pretty fast one for this one simple reason.....he's a support character. Unlike a majority of other bounty hunters who are attackers, Cad Bane is unique in that he is a support. So under Qi'ra lead, every time he crits he's gaining +20 speed which will stack up to +60 speed, giving him a speed of 185 before mods. Pretty fast! The synergy between Qi'ras Joint Operation SA and Cad Bane is really good to, making the good effects in that attack benefit both Qi'ra and Cad.

There is something to this rework, it just isn't obvious. I'm sure there are some other cool combos and syenrgies out there, so it'll be fun to see what people come up with. This is just one of the ideas i discovered so i thought i'd share it with you all.

Agree. He procs her prepared a lot too. Ive been testing Qira Vandor Zalbar Young Han and Cad for the last week. A light side scoundrel would be better, but he works pretty well and does a lot of damage.

"VonZant;c-1633925" wrote:
Tier IV, p2. No full contract or zeta or crit damage mods. Looking pretty good actually. Wont let me post the screen for some reason but he did as much damage as Greedo and Embo.

Gotcha beat. He's better in p1. This is also tier 4

Looks like a solid member of the BH B squad

No zeta?

"Phoenixeon;c-1627172" wrote:
Stungun
Double tap (crit crit)
Stungun
Dengar or bossk calling assist
Stungun
Counter
Stungun....

Thats super annoying stun machine

Not against Treya. Debuffs don't stick.

Also not against Treya because she has huge crit avoidance as part of her lead. Way less cool down decreases.

And not against Bastilla. Her tenacity is too high, and he can't get his contract that lowers her tenacity without sticking debuffs... which he can't do because her tenacity is too high. His extra potency wasn't enough in Ahnald's vid.

Also not against Bastilla because her whole team will lap him. He's slow as dirt, and they start with a significant TM boost.

Also disappointing is that his damage didn't appear to be increased in any meaningful way. He's better, but still lackluster on a good day. Oh well. Maybe he'll get reworked again in a few years.

So some BH can have over 160% potency under him. How high does it need to be to overcome Bastila?

Regardless he will be ok under an Embo or Boba lead. Unevadable stun that can reset often might be good. At least he is somewhat viable now.

Edit: Just looked at Aurra. Could make a stun team under a Cad lead now? Not sure how useful that is, but could be done.

Ig88, vandor, cad, l3, nest.

That's the only line up I can see him working well in.

Reminds me ppl saying vader and palp rework are trash, and they are everywhere now.