Says that Marauder will gain TM when an enemy uses an "ability" outside of their turn.Does this strictly mean abilities or is it referencing basic attacks as well?Better wording would be when a toon "acts" outside of their turn. I dont count basic attacks as abilities because they aren't. Abilities have cooldowns, basics do not. So far the only way i see this working is when a passive ability is used or when a toon like Old ben is killed, or when GK and Royal guard taunt. I think the intent was to have the Sith Marauder gain turn meter for assist as well, but it doesn't read that way.

Yea i agree.. wording is not their strongest. There's a lot descriptions that confuse me as well :grimace:

"Basics" are basic abilities, hence using ability mats to level them.

Basic abilities are abilities, as defined by the game. The abilities that have cooldowns are *special* abilities.

"RacerDejak;c-1460095" wrote:Yea i agree.. wording is not their strongest. There's a lot descriptions that confuse me as well :grimace: You mean "wording is not their strong suit"? ^_^

"RacerDejak;c-1460121" wrote:"leef;c-1460119" wrote:"RacerDejak;c-1460095" wrote:Yea i agree.. wording is not their strongest. There's a lot descriptions that confuse me as well :grimace: You mean "wording is not their strong suit"? ^_^Yea something like that.. sorry if confusing.. my english not good :grimace: i think everyone understoot what you meant, so it's all good. It was just ironic in this thread, hehe.

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CleverWes
7 years ago
"jejuzang;c-1460842" wrote:
"CleverWes;c-1460835" wrote:
It was clarified by Kozi when the character kit was shown. Marauder will gain tm on assists and counter attacks, but not on uniques.

Now, it doesn't say it specifically in the skill description, and I agree that it's confusing at the least, but it has been clarified, and quickly for once.

Where was it clarified about uniques??

Check out the second post by Kozi right where I said it'd be - under character strategy.

https://forums.galaxy-of-heroes.starwars.ea.com/discussion/157527/character-strategy-sith-marauder/p1
GhostTrucking
7 years ago
I'd stop feeding the troll personally folks, this is not the first time for this type of thread by the OP
Juzang17
7 years ago
"GhostTruckin;c-1460960" wrote:
I'd stop feeding the troll personally folks, this is not the first time for this type of thread by the OP

I'm not a troll, and obviously there are many people with different opinions on this wording and how its interpreted.

Calling people trolls for trying to understand another language is not right at all. Honestly i am offended. Sometimes the people in this community can be pretty horrible.
Juzang17
7 years ago
"Liath;c-1460944" wrote:
"jejuzang;c-1460934" wrote:
"DedrickRogue;c-1460923" wrote:
TM gain for every counter attack, and for everyone that assists.

Now its attacks? I thought it was every ability use, not just attack. Wouldn't that cover passive and uniques?

It never has before, AFAIK. As mentioned, you aren't "using" a passive, it's just there.

I am not sure what AFAIK means. I thought that was a typo in the earlier comment.
GhostTrucking
7 years ago
Uh huh
CleverWes
7 years ago
"jejuzang;c-1460971" wrote:
"Liath;c-1460944" wrote:
"jejuzang;c-1460934" wrote:
"DedrickRogue;c-1460923" wrote:
TM gain for every counter attack, and for everyone that assists.

Now its attacks? I thought it was every ability use, not just attack. Wouldn't that cover passive and uniques?

It never has before, AFAIK. As mentioned, you aren't "using" a passive, it's just there.

I am not sure what AFAIK means. I thought that was a typo in the earlier comment.

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billcarson1966
7 years ago
I would say uniques are not “using an ability”. They are passive actions/buffs/debuffs that trigger under certain conditions.

After a turn, in the case of barris cleanse, the attack she took was the ability used....the cleanse of the lowest health ally was a passive ability triggered by her using an ability. She didn’t “use” the ability to cleanse like Rex/GK/Chirrut.
MidasWelBee
7 years ago
"Billcarson66;c-1461019" wrote:
I would say uniques are not “using an ability”. They are passive actions/buffs/debuffs that trigger under certain conditions.

After a turn, in the case of barris cleanse, the attack she took was the ability used....the cleanse of the lowest health ally was a passive ability triggered by her using an ability. She didn’t “use” the ability to cleanse like Rex/GK/Chirrut.

So much this....

EDIT: also, go to your ability mat challenge in game, open the rewards tab and click on one of the mats...it reads
“Used to upgrade unit abilities.”
ElleMadara
7 years ago
Dude, chill out, an ability can be either a Bassic (a counter/an assist), a passive unique (Old Ben dying) or a leadership skill (CLS gaining TM when his friends are hurt), is that HARD to understand?
CleverWes
7 years ago
"Woodroward;c-1461051" wrote:
The difference between passives and uniques vs basics and specials is, in general, that the former pair are mainly triggered effects, while the latter pair are actions taken by the toon.

The wording is that whenever a character uses an ability outside of their turn. Passive abilities are never used they are only triggered. Now on counters and assists something triggered that character to use that ability so it was an action (a use) that was triggered. With a taunt, it is merely an effect that was triggered. You can tell that no ability was used because no animation of the character happens to show it as such.

Bottom line is that passives/uniques are never used, they are simply always on and either have persistent or triggered effects.

This is the best way I've seen it.

Tl;Dr
He gains tm from active abilities outside his turn, not passives outside his turn. 'Nuff said.