I’m not sure the interaction in the link below is working properly. I just played a match with Vader under a zEP lead against a padme team. Vader was the fastest character in the match by far. During Merciless Massacre, Vader dropped Ashoka below 50% health. JKA took his bonus turn next, then padme took a turn, and then Vader continued his massacre. If I’m reading the post correct, my Vader should have continued taking turns because all 3 characters received a bonus turn, but Vader was the fastest of all 3.Speeds:Vader = 270 before No EscapeJKA = 274Padme = 283Is No escape not factored into the tie breaker?https://forums.galaxy-of-heroes.starwars.ea.com/discussion/234241/turn-meter-speed-overflow-changes#latest

The TM overflow rules still apply when characters gain bonus turns. Vader ended up at 100% TM when he gained his bonus turn since he had just performed an action. JKA and Ahsoka most likely ended up with some overflow (unless they were at 0% initially in your scenario). Speed is only considered if they are tied on TM overflow.

"Waqui;c-2171970" wrote:The TM overflow rules still apply when characters gain bonus turns. Vader ended up at 100% TM when he gained his bonus turn since he had just performed an action. JKA and Ahsoka most likely ended up with some overflow (unless they were at 0% initially in your scenario). Speed is only considered if they are tied on TM overflow.This.Vader gets his bonus turn and has 0 overflow.The other 2 get a bonus turn and turn whatever TM they had into overflow.

"Kyno;c-2171971" wrote:"Waqui;c-2171970" wrote:The TM overflow rules still apply when characters gain bonus turns. Vader ended up at 100% TM when he gained his bonus turn since he had just performed an action. JKA and Ahsoka most likely ended up with some overflow (unless they were at 0% initially in your scenario). Speed is only considered if they are tied on TM overflow.This.Vader gets his bonus turn and has 0 overflow.The other 2 get a bonus turn and turn whatever TM they had into overflow.So now a bonus turn grants +100% turn meter instead of bringing a unit’s turn meter to 100%? Is that written down anywhere? I’m not questioning if you two are right (it appears based on my match that you are), but it would be really nice to know this. I actually went and reread this post by crumb before attempting the match to make sure that Anakin/padme wouldn’t get to take a turn in the middle of massacre and completely blow up my team (they knocked out 3 of 5). If I had known this going into the match, I would have attempted ability block on both rather than trying to stack debuffs to kill JKA in 1 hit.

Anakin's Righteous Fury:So he's recovering 100% on top of whatever he was at when the Unique activated under the new system.

"Scuttlebutt;c-2172205" wrote:"Vendi1983;c-2172202" wrote:Anakin's Righteous Fury:So he's recovering 100% on top of whatever he was at when the Unique activated under the new system.Thank you. I think that clears it up. Next time, I’ll ability block JKA and padme first in order to keep from losing most of my team.This is a good idea anyway.I personally feel that characters given a bonus turn should override anyone at 100% who got there from other means, no matter how much "extra" tm they've been getting. This was the point of the bonus turn changes and making Thrawn's tm swap take precedence. The concept of tm overflow is pretty ridiculous, even if people did want some sort of tie-breaker (I for one thought the rng in ties made perfect sense, but people got what they asked for, I guess).

Turn Meter Overflow and Bonus Turns

Waquira
4 years ago
"Merailla;c-2193272" wrote:
Now explain what is happening in this example pls:

Vader, this time under Palp lead does his AoE during MM and brings GK under 50% HP, JKA that had 30% TM gets bonus turn..But under Palp lead, Vader just landed 7+ debuffs on enemy team and should gain 140+% TM and also bonus turn from MM..Who goes first?

From the official announcement of the introduction of TM overflow:

"NOTE #1: Units who have been granted a bonus turn are subject to the same rules, but they will take their turn before anyone who has not been granted a bonus turn. If there are multiple units with a bonus turn, the order is determined by the same criteria: highest overflow, then highest speed, then randomly."
Merailla
4 years ago
"Waqui;c-2193289" wrote:

From the official announcement of the introduction of TM overflow:

"NOTE #1: Units who have been granted a bonus turn are subject to the same rules, but they will take their turn before anyone who has not been granted a bonus turn. If there are multiple units with a bonus turn, the order is determined by the same criteria: highest overflow, then highest speed, then randomly."

I can read, now pls answer the question..who has more TM overflow in this case...?
scuba75
Seasoned Rookie
4 years ago
"Merailla;c-2193272" wrote:
Now explain what is happening in this example pls:

Vader, this time under Palp lead does his AoE during MM and brings GK under 50% HP, JKA that had 30% TM gets bonus turn..But under Palp lead, Vader just landed 7+ debuffs on enemy team and should gain 140+% TM and also bonus turn from MM..Who goes first?

Test it out and tell us
Waquira
4 years ago
"Merailla;c-2193292" wrote:
"Waqui;c-2193289" wrote:

From the official announcement of the introduction of TM overflow:

"NOTE #1: Units who have been granted a bonus turn are subject to the same rules, but they will take their turn before anyone who has not been granted a bonus turn. If there are multiple units with a bonus turn, the order is determined by the same criteria: highest overflow, then highest speed, then randomly."

I can read, now pls answer the question..who has more TM overflow in this case...?

You have your answer in what you quoted. Please use your reading skills.
Merailla
4 years ago
OK, JKA goes first in this case btw..surprised @Waqui ?

How is this answered in that quote, pls tell me...there is nothing about if the TM gain from skills or lead adds TM to bonus turn TM overflow..
Waquira
4 years ago
"Merailla;c-2193459" wrote:
OK, JKA goes first in this case btw..surprised @Waqui ?

How is this answered in that quote, pls tell me...there is nothing about if the TM gain from skills or lead adds TM to bonus turn TM overflow..

There is everything you need to know about cases where multiple characters gained a bonus turn. But of course you need to understand it to see it.

If what you see doesn't comply with the official announcement/description of the mechanism I'd recommend to report it as a bug.
Da_Bauers
New Spectator
4 years ago
My guess is that the damage from FC is what caused GK to drop below 50%. If so, that means the debuffs haven't been applied yet, so JKA's bonus turn is triggered right there, meaning he has his BT before Vader's from MM + overflow from debuffs. It's an order of operations thing, like zOld Ben taunting through Fracture.
scuba75
Seasoned Rookie
4 years ago
"Vendi1983;c-2193542" wrote:
My guess is that the damage from FC is what caused GK to drop below 50%. If so, that means the debuffs haven't been applied yet, so JKA's bonus turn is triggered right there, meaning he has his BT before Vader's from MM + overflow from debuffs. It's an order of operations thing, like zOld Ben taunting through Fracture.

I am thinking this is it also, because they are making bonus turns go first, JKA gets his bonus turn triggered before Vader, wouldn't be the first time something did work as planned.

Also @Merailla how do you know jka is at 30% tm when it happens? Guess or did you math it?
Merailla
4 years ago
"scuba;c-2193565" wrote:
"scuba;c-2193556" wrote:
"Vendi1983;c-2193542" wrote:
My guess is that the damage from FC is what caused GK to drop below 50%. If so, that means the debuffs haven't been applied yet, so JKA's bonus turn is triggered right there, meaning he has his BT before Vader's from MM + overflow from debuffs. It's an order of operations thing, like zOld Ben taunting through Fracture.

I am thinking this is it also, because they are making bonus turns go first, JKA gets his bonus turn triggered before Vader, wouldn't be the first time something did work as planned.

Also Merailla how do you know jka is at 30% tm when it happens? Guess or did you math it?

I take it back. It looks like while vader has the merciless buff he is prevented from tm gains (speed_recovery)

So no matter how many debuffs he lands he will have 0 overflow
It even says so in his ability
Merciless: +50% Offense, +25% Critical Chance, and +50% Critical Damage; immune to Fear, Stun, and Turn Meter manipulation and Darth Vader's bonus turns do not trigger other characters' effects based on bonus turns or Turn Meter gain

Thx for being helpful unlike @Waqui
Da_Bauers
New Spectator
4 years ago
Well that does it then. He's just getting a 100% natural bonus turn whereas Anakin is getting his plus overflow.