Why change anything?If more people are having fun then complaining please keep the happy accident.Can we rally a coalition, petition, something to stop this.- other teams can solo pit, "Jyn"- higher damage teams for tank, "Clones, Kylo"- Vader did not shift the arena meta like MaulLet's not even start on all the resources used to create a TEAM around Vader, time, gear, credits.How many made a decision to shift resources to focus on Vader + Zeta and a team of Sith or Empire.Guild mate posted this:"CG_feltz916 - It is a bug. Vader's TM removal is more than intended on an encounter beyond the first of a battle and/or raid. I cannot give a date as to when it will be fixed, other than soon."

I have to agree. I focused a lot of resources including real money to get Vader's zeta squad, which I also use for arena currently. This was even after the fix on the zeta before. If it wasn't as effective in the Rancor raid I likely would have invested my resources elsewhere.

"Mzee;c-1043120" wrote:I have to agree. I focused a lot of resources including real money to get Vader's zeta squad, which I also use for arena currently. This was even after the fix on the zeta before. If it wasn't as effective in the Rancor raid I likely would have invested my resources elsewhere.Like the OP, I see you also want something for free. When you read Zader's ability, it CLEARLY says what's intended. That's ALL you deserve, and absolutely nothing more.

I totally agree or I'll have a refund, you fixed a bug last time on him knowing quite well what his TM reduction was doing in the Pit. But you didn't fix the TM so I put my Zs on him..! The horse has bolted with this one EA, I would have kept investing in my Teebo TM squad months ago, I didn't I maxxd a Zader Pit Team I do now, many others too..!Two Guildies just placed Zs on their DV to achieve the same numbers as the rest of the guild, the had no idea it was bugged. They just wanted to " be up with the boys n girls ". Don't take peoples fun away from them, I don't hear any complaints.. Do we know to what extent Zader will be viable in the Pit..Someone fire up a petition my guild will sign it.. ✌

"SnakesOnAPlane;c-1043148" wrote:"Mzee;c-1043120" wrote:I have to agree. I focused a lot of resources including real money to get Vader's zeta squad, which I also use for arena currently. This was even after the fix on the zeta before. If it wasn't as effective in the Rancor raid I likely would have invested my resources elsewhere.Like the OP, I see you also want something for free. When you read Zader's ability, it CLEARLY says what's intended. That's ALL you deserve, and absolutely nothing more.The thing is a lot of people have zeta'd him based on the want to solo the rancor. Guildie of mine just zeta'd him and had no idea he was bugged in rancor....

"SnakesOnAPlane;c-1043148" wrote:Like the OP, I see you also want something for free. When you read Zader's ability, it CLEARLY says what's intended. That's ALL you deserve, and absolutely nothing more."Hey Bob, you posted huge numbers in the raid, how did you do it?""Glad you asked. I read from the official forum that after Vader's zeta was fixed he now works extremely well in the pit raid. I put my zeta there, I'm happy with the results."As the real mechanism is not known we can only observe the results. If what was intended differed so much from what was going on why did it take months for the devs finally to figure out it actually was a bug?That said, of course it was a bug, it was immediately obvious. I tried it a few times and then stopped doing it. I reach the top without that, too, besides the rewards on the top have been challenge gear and other assorted garbage always.My Vader is very useful in AAT p2 and GW. That's enough for me. Placed zeta on him for the tanks, instead of the pit where Rancor goes down in fifteen minutes thanks to 4x auto.

#VaderNerf possibly on the horizon???

james05090
8 years ago
Like I said I still got his Zeta over a month ago although it was not officially announced it was still obvious he was going to get fixed at some point.

He is still really good in other parts of the game and that's why I got it the Rancor was just a bonus.
shothit
8 years ago
"Ztyle;c-1044867" wrote:
It's a bug fix, not a nerf
That said, I strongly believe the devs are wasting their time on this bug, there's to many other more significant bugs, they should focus on instead of imo a bug that helps lower roster people in guilds compeat against someone like me, making it fun for more people, instead of just allowing people like myself to Soloing the Pit within a reasonable timeframe

This bug is the only reason the guild i am in can even come close to doing the heroic rancor and we still not able to do it. i was not aware ot was a bug nor do i think anybody in my guild knew it was a bug. I dont surf the forums that much and only saw a couple zader threads soloing the rancor. Therefore thw guild i am in could have soon been able to do a heroic rancor where we couldnt before. Knowing now that this is a bug doesnt change my wanting to quit if they make it so zader cant solo the rancor. Without zader neither myself nor the guild i am in are anywhere near being able to do heroic rancor. I am so tired of changes to a game which make it harder and less fun. The only reason i zeta'd vader. There were other zetas i would have done instead of the zader had i been aware of this.
PngnSldr
8 years ago
You're able to Zeta Vader...and thus able to solo the Tier 7 Rancor...but somehow not able to beat the Tier 7 Rancor otherwise? That seems...extremely unlikely to me.
dawgfan91
8 years ago
What exactly is this "bug" fix? What does he do that he's not supposed to be doing?

CG already fixed a previous bug because of his (and EP's) two factions... so again, what is it this time? I zeta'd him as my first a while back so this is of interest to me.
james05090
8 years ago
"KiyoshiTaro;c-1044912" wrote:
You're able to Zeta Vader...and thus able to solo the Tier 7 Rancor...but somehow not able to beat the Tier 7 Rancor otherwise? That seems...extremely unlikely to me.

It's possible, getting zeta's is quite easy, if you are one of the strongest in the guild you can get multiple zeta's and not be able to complete Heroic Rancors.
shothit
8 years ago

"KiyoshiTaro;c-1044912" wrote:
You're able to Zeta Vader...and thus able to solo the Tier 7 Rancor...but somehow not able to beat the Tier 7 Rancor otherwise? That seems...extremely unlikely to me.

I just got my zader. I need to work on getting the other things necessary to soloing the tier 7. As i wrote we are not wven close to doing a tier 7 without the zader. I still need a couple things before toer 7 is soloable for me but getting the zader was an important part of it. With the zader the other things become necessary and doable. I wouldnt waste my time nor would i have wasted my time on zader if it were not possible.
shothit
8 years ago
Inwas the closest in my guild to the zader as i was the one woth vader 7* so it seemed logical for me to do the zader for the rancor
PremierVenoth
8 years ago
Magma trooper's coming out with moar TM removal - with the big fix maybe you'll just need to farm and pull him in now.
SakMoiKak
8 years ago
I'd rather they fix the defense bug on Zavage and Zylo if they haven't fixed it already
Persimius
New Scout
8 years ago
"CK_3030;c-1044918" wrote:
What exactly is this "bug" fix? What does he do that he's not supposed to be doing?

CG already fixed a previous bug because of his (and EP's) two factions... so again, what is it this time? I zeta'd him as my first a while back so this is of interest to me.

Basically, his TM removal stacks as you move through the phases. This is easily reproducible and very obvious if you watch the Rancor's TM in phases 3 and 4.

Some good details in this thread: https://forums.galaxy-of-heroes.starwars.ea.com/discussion/91328/zader-tm-removal-bug