Seriously! It got worse and worse...Fleet arena always was way to much randomized. One time you get completely destroyed by an opponent and the very next try against the same opponent using the same strategy you win without losing one single ship.But since the last update it feels the odds are not random anymore, but clearly against you.My observations over the last few days:- opponents ships evade damage twice as much as identical ships on my side- hounds tooth breach works 50%of the time for me and 90% of the time for the opponent (identical or lower level ship)- Damage dealt by opponents ships SIGNIFICANTLY higher (even when considering capital ship effects)- Occasionally multiple attacks and stun effects by opponent without apparent reason- Counter attacks of own ships not triggeredI could go on and on... at this point it is getting ridiculous. Fleet arena is making me want to quite the game for good.Please dear developers: Reduce at least the impact of chance. At this point I feel like i am just rolling a dice and have to get a 6 to win.

Odd - I have a very high success rate (lose maybe once a week), and that's usually only due to a horrible string of RNG. It helps to have ships that don't rely on chance (TL outside of Vader hello) as well as being able to force the AI into certain moves that give you an advantage.Weird "bugs" can often be attributed to not fully understanding all the factors at play.For instance, HT vs HT. If your Houndstooth goes first (you mentioned your ship being stronger), you're hitting the opposing HT while it still has a tenacity buff. By the time his ship goes, you have taunt and so lose the tenacity boost. Boom there's your Breach success rate.

"Vendi1983;c-1706727" wrote:Interesting thing I've noted: I stun Vader with Silencer, Biggs does his special to call an assist, Vader un-stuns and assists. Nowhere in Biggs'ability does it mention cleansing the assisting ally.Without more details, I can't tell you exactly what's happening, but turn order here would be Silencer - Vader - Biggs. The stun is just expiring.

Just defeated Geo trio under Tarkin within 60 seconds of payout. They're not as OP as many make them out to be. Just need to strategize.KRU stuns Sun Fac, Vader TL on him next. Biggs assist if able, if not basic, normally dead by the next move or two anyway. Move on from there.HT as a reinforcement as well. The full gamut of "OP/Broken Ships 2.0"

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kieronkumar
7 years ago
"starplatinum;c-1707583" wrote:
Fleet is definitely full of surprises!.. Today i called in cassian (my 3rd reinforcement), my vader took directly a turn and then my cassian did.. i've never seen that before.

If the enemy team has Kylo's Command Shuttle then reinforcements lose turn meter.
tvsfrink
7 years ago
"Nikoms565;c-1707532" wrote:
"2% dodge"

"Track your numbers over a relevant sample size."

I haven't seen a single ship dodge other than ITF or Spy in the last week or so.
KyoO1234
7 years ago
Continued to observe and still think fleet arena is broken. If you play with Genosian fleet you might not realize because they are very op now...

I looked very closely at all active effects, synergies, damage, defence, health etc. and it just does not make sense. My maxed out HT now seems to be even weaker and my maxed out TS hardly makes a dent into Sun Fac’s ship...

If the numbers don’t add up it has to be chance. But then why are the odds stacked against me. Enemy ships evade (especially when using a high damage attack) and I can be happy if my ITF dodges 25% of the time...
Waquira
7 years ago
"KyoO1234;c-1708236" wrote:
Continued to observe and still think fleet arena is broken. If you play with Genosian fleet you might not realize because they are very op now...

I looked very closely at all active effects, synergies, damage, defence, health etc. and it just does not make sense. My maxed out HT now seems to be even weaker and my maxed out TS hardly makes a dent into Sun Fac’s ship...

Sun Fac's ship has +60% defense when taunting, and receives +30% crit avoidance with 2 other geonosian allies. Did you consider this?
Chowley
7 years ago
Your ships not counter attacking is really very noticeable fairly common and extremely frustrating.
I find silencers stun often doesn't work also when it should
DVZR
7 years ago
Yeah not sure Geo's are broken. I target them. They are extremely slow and you can often kill one before they move. Even with HT + SF reinforce they are beatable. If they get a lucky string of assists/crits they can sometimes instagib my Biggs, but usually he lasts until super.
tvsfrink
7 years ago
"CurryBeans;c-1708611" wrote:

I find silencers stun often doesn't work also when it should

The fact that it can be resisted doesn't mean it isn't working when it should.
nilsg960
7 years ago
Lots of claims in this thread, not a lot of support for any of them. Here is my suggestion.

Easiest claim to track is that the opponent dodge rate is not equal to 2%

I normally use about 25 to 35 turns per battle, I doubt it's too dissimilar on average for others. At this rate I'd expect 1 dodge on average about every 1 and a half battles (by ships without elevated evasion stats like TFP and Geo Spy).

To determine with a .95 confidence that the actual dodge rate is different from 2% you'll only need to record on the order of 2000 turns to detect an effect size of 3% (i.e. the true doge rate being over 5% rather than 2%). If you want to go further you'll need closer to 10000 to see an effect size of 1%. But 2000 turns shouldn't be difficult for you. That should only be about 13 days of recording at 5 battles a day. Just note down the number of attacks against enemies with a quoted dodge rate of 2% and the number of dodges for each battle until your total number of attacks is a bit over 2000. You could do the opposite for your ships and test for a difference between the two distributions too but you would also want to repeat maybe 3 times.

(as an aside I didn't actually stick any of these numbers in a calculator to check but they are conservative estimates you can check them here for example http://powerandsamplesize.com/Calculators/Other/1-Sample-Binomial)

There were a lot of other things mentioned, some of them sound like bugs if they are as described to you should only need to record a single example of them occurring and submit a ticket on Answers HQ. If you do record any you could also post here and people could comment on if they notice any game mechanics that explain what you are seeing.

Likely result... a lot of wasted time and nothing left to complain about so I wouldn't bother. However there was a bug in the GW matchmaking that has been shown quite often on the forums and the response of lots of the veterans here was a pretty universal (and condescending) "git gud". So if you do record any of these things and they are legitimate problems then the devs will almost certainly take note! (eventually)

Best of luck trying to solve your ship battle problems though do consider a bit more gear or a change of lineup, maybe that might also help.
TheRescueToaste
7 years ago
Fleet stuff can seem sketchy - I think it's because it wasn't flawlessly applied to the game, and there are MANY variables under the hood that we don't really have access to see at every moment. For instance, I would love to see the stats of my characters while in battle to see what their stats are while buffed / debuffed, etc.

"EduardoCadav;c-1708690" wrote:
However there was a bug in the GW matchmaking that has been shown quite often on the forums and the response of lots of the veterans here was a pretty universal (and condescending) "git gud".

You have to love some of the demeaning things some people respond with in the face of legitimate criticism, where you often see some sort of marginalizing statement, such as: "Quit crying, it used to be even worse!". Implying that because it was worse in the past it means you have no right to criticize..
KyoO1234
7 years ago
Well done EA! Making the already overpowered Genosian ships even more powerful (Sun Fac ignoring taunt anyone?!?!)

This is getting ridiculous.