My Nest and NS team are coming along. Better GAC defense:lead zMT unique zAssaj zDaka zombie Nest? Or Lead zzAssaj zunique MT zdaka zombie nest? 1 requires 3 zeta the other 4. Right now I have none dropped in. I think MT lead might be better overall to have the HSTR P3 option and it is the cheaper 1. Last question, is a slow nest or a fast high tenacity nest better with this team?

at your level of gac (I think) mt might be good if you can also use here for p3. I personally like asajj L but like them on Offense (depending, in case any opponents are reading this lol)

"Gifafi;c-2074541" wrote:at your level of gac (I think) mt might be good if you can also use here for p3. I personally like asajj L but like them on Offense (depending, in case any opponents are reading this lol)Out of curiosity, thoughts on another NS replacing Assaj behind MT lead? I read someone saying that Assaj actually doesn't contribute much to the mechanics of the NS team. I don't quite agree at 1st thought, but I can say for sure that I did come up against a zombie acolyte combo where it took my GMY 20 shots or so of his AOE to kill a remaining stealthed acolyte/zombie combo. Was pretty funny. I was like, "You've got to be kidding me."My counter was probably Bastilla Jolee GK Mace GMY.

AV lead with Spirit is better for pvp but Talzin lead with Acolyte can also do the job if you have to be careful with your zeta spendings. As you alrdy pointed out it would be better to go for Talzin lead for now as that will also give access to the P3 loop in HSR.Nest belongs into offense (be sure to stack some tenacity on her so she resists those daze + stun debuffs) as she's great to solo entire teams and get extra banners. While it might get trickier to find the right teams for her to solo on high level GAC (div 1 with 6mio+ GP where most teams are G13 or even relic'd), on lower level GAC you should always be able to find a team for her to beat up.

Ventress lead is generally better on defense - you don't get the deathstorm shenanigans going, but the big TM manipulation boosts make them much more unpredictable. Plus it's pretty much ingrained at this point to always bring anti-revive against them, so MT's lead is less likely to do what it's supposed to anyway.In the same vein, I probably wouldn't bother with acolyte cheese at this point since it's such an old tactic that any decent player will be familiar with how to get around it. The only reason I'd consider dropping Ventress is if you really want to run her under Nute for some reason, and even then it's "eh."

"Legend91;c-2074550" wrote:AV lead with Spirit is better for pvp but Talzin lead with Acolyte can also do the job if you have to be careful with your zeta spendings. As you alrdy pointed out it would be better to go for Talzin lead for now as that will also give access to the P3 loop in HSR.Nest belongs into offense (be sure to stack some tenacity on her so she resists those daze + stun debuffs) as she's great to solo entire teams and get extra banners. While it might get trickier to find the right teams for her to solo on high level GAC (div 1 with 6mio+ GP where most teams are G13 or even relic'd), on lower level GAC you should always be able to find a team for her to beat up.I am at 135% tenacity, no added speed, 55%-65% potency 6*, zeta Nest.You think that 1 can do some soloing yet?

What's a good NS Nest GAC defense team?

GifafiTho
5 years ago
at your level of gac (I think) mt might be good if you can also use here for p3. I personally like asajj L but like them on Offense (depending, in case any opponents are reading this lol)
Mephisto_style
5 years ago
"Gifafi;c-2074541" wrote:
at your level of gac (I think) mt might be good if you can also use here for p3. I personally like asajj L but like them on Offense (depending, in case any opponents are reading this lol)

Out of curiosity, thoughts on another NS replacing Assaj behind MT lead? I read someone saying that Assaj actually doesn't contribute much to the mechanics of the NS team. I don't quite agree at 1st thought, but I can say for sure that I did come up against a zombie acolyte combo where it took my GMY 20 shots or so of his AOE to kill a remaining stealthed acolyte/zombie combo. Was pretty funny. I was like, "You've got to be kidding me."

My counter was probably Bastilla Jolee GK Mace GMY.
Legend91x
5 years ago
AV lead with Spirit is better for pvp but Talzin lead with Acolyte can also do the job if you have to be careful with your zeta spendings. As you alrdy pointed out it would be better to go for Talzin lead for now as that will also give access to the P3 loop in HSR.
Nest belongs into offense (be sure to stack some tenacity on her so she resists those daze + stun debuffs) as she's great to solo entire teams and get extra banners. While it might get trickier to find the right teams for her to solo on high level GAC (div 1 with 6mio+ GP where most teams are G13 or even relic'd), on lower level GAC you should always be able to find a team for her to beat up.
Vaderizer
Seasoned Newcomer
5 years ago
Ventress lead is generally better on defense - you don't get the deathstorm shenanigans going, but the big TM manipulation boosts make them much more unpredictable. Plus it's pretty much ingrained at this point to always bring anti-revive against them, so MT's lead is less likely to do what it's supposed to anyway.

In the same vein, I probably wouldn't bother with acolyte cheese at this point since it's such an old tactic that any decent player will be familiar with how to get around it. The only reason I'd consider dropping Ventress is if you really want to run her under Nute for some reason, and even then it's "eh."
Mephisto_style
5 years ago
"Legend91;c-2074550" wrote:
AV lead with Spirit is better for pvp but Talzin lead with Acolyte can also do the job if you have to be careful with your zeta spendings. As you alrdy pointed out it would be better to go for Talzin lead for now as that will also give access to the P3 loop in HSR.
Nest belongs into offense (be sure to stack some tenacity on her so she resists those daze + stun debuffs) as she's great to solo entire teams and get extra banners. While it might get trickier to find the right teams for her to solo on high level GAC (div 1 with 6mio+ GP where most teams are G13 or even relic'd), on lower level GAC you should always be able to find a team for her to beat up.

I am at 135% tenacity, no added speed, 55%-65% potency 6*, zeta Nest.

You think that 1 can do some soloing yet?
GifafiTho
5 years ago
"Mephisto_style;c-2074548" wrote:
"Gifafi;c-2074541" wrote:
at your level of gac (I think) mt might be good if you can also use here for p3. I personally like asajj L but like them on Offense (depending, in case any opponents are reading this lol)

Out of curiosity, thoughts on another NS replacing Assaj behind MT lead? I read someone saying that Assaj actually doesn't contribute much to the mechanics of the NS team. I don't quite agree at 1st thought, but I can say for sure that I did come up against a zombie acolyte combo where it took my GMY 20 shots or so of his AOE to kill a remaining stealthed acolyte/zombie combo. Was pretty funny. I was like, "You've got to be kidding me."

My counter was probably Bastilla Jolee GK Mace GMY.

asajj is da real mvp imo. spirit is a great 5th once geared. aco does the stealth thing but I wouldn't count on the aco strat working these days
ZapZapZipZap
5 years ago
"Gifafi;c-2074580" wrote:
"Mephisto_style;c-2074548" wrote:
"Gifafi;c-2074541" wrote:
at your level of gac (I think) mt might be good if you can also use here for p3. I personally like asajj L but like them on Offense (depending, in case any opponents are reading this lol)

Out of curiosity, thoughts on another NS replacing Assaj behind MT lead? I read someone saying that Assaj actually doesn't contribute much to the mechanics of the NS team. I don't quite agree at 1st thought, but I can say for sure that I did come up against a zombie acolyte combo where it took my GMY 20 shots or so of his AOE to kill a remaining stealthed acolyte/zombie combo. Was pretty funny. I was like, "You've got to be kidding me."

My counter was probably Bastilla Jolee GK Mace GMY.

asajj is da real mvp imo. spirit is a great 5th once geared. aco does the stealth thing but I wouldn't count on the aco strat working these days

Aco still surprises me sometimes and gets some holds. I’m gearing spirit to replace her, but better to run aco than initiate or talia for me anyways.
princecasals
5 years ago
NS nest is a waste of nest unless your opponent has very strong ITs or your spirit is weak.
NS nest is weaker vs BH or Traya than NS Spirit.
In the last ga, I beat all g13(not high reliced though) NS Nest with Traya easily.
ZapZapZipZap
5 years ago
"princecasals;c-2074622" wrote:
NS nest is a waste of nest unless your opponent has very strong ITs or your spirit is weak.
NS nest is weaker vs BH or Traya than NS Spirit.
In the last ga, I beat all g13(not high reliced though) NS Nest with Traya easily.

I don’t use nest with NS, but it can take away someone equally geared ITs as a counter and require them to use a stronger team instead.
Mephisto_style
5 years ago
"princecasals;c-2074622" wrote:
NS nest is a waste of nest unless your opponent has very strong ITs or your spirit is weak.
NS nest is weaker vs BH or Traya than NS Spirit.
In the last ga, I beat all g13(not high reliced though) NS Nest with Traya easily.

Well, this is interesting to know, because I am still using Jawas as Geo counter, so that leaves my Triumvirate free to do what you say.
My Jawas can always be used for.teams like this Ewok, even multizeta 95k Ewok times get wiped by Jawas of 80k GP. I took these out with autoplay.