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Arctile87's avatar
7 years ago

Issue with Darth Nihilus protection in the Sithraid

Product: Star Wars: Galaxy of Heroes
Platform:Android Phone
What type of device are you experiencing the issue with? BlueStacks, Mobile Phone
OS Version BlueStacks Client Version 4.1.21.2018 - Android version 8.0.0
Ally Code: (Find it here: http://bit.ly/AllyCode ) 722-749-976
What type of issue do you have? Gameplay
How often does the bug occur? Every time (100%)
Summarize your bug Darth Nihilus has an Issue with his generation of Protection in the Sithraid (the Enemy) when I use the Nightsisters (Asajj ❤️, Talzin, Old Daka, Zombie, Talia). At some point of the fight, he just takes no damage anymore and generates too much protection until some point. This happens in phase one and phase four.
Steps: How can we find the bug ourselves? Play Sithraid P1 and 4 with Nightsisters 😉 People on the Nightsister Discord say, that this issue occurs when DN annihilates Zombie
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Country Germany

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FAqjjD3iXhw&feature=youtu.be
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dlgufnjWedI&feature=youtu.be



This screenshot was after an auto Run in P1 Sithraid

7 Replies

  • GladOS-013's avatar
    GladOS-013
    Hero (Retired)
    7 years ago
    Whenever one of your characters with Defense Down perform a basic attack on Nihilus, his maximum protection is increased by a value of 25% of your character's protection value. If he still has some protection available, it is automatically added to that.

    Each turn, he regains protection based on the # of buffed members of your team. (5 buffed Nightsisters means he regens 15% of max protection). Also, if any of his minions are alive when he uses "Feed the Void", he'll regenerate a substantial amount of protection.

    A friend of mine has witnessed this too, on a run where he did 50% of Nihilus' health. He and I are going to try and record and do real-time calculations for his run, and see what is actually happening to the numbers.
  • Arctile87's avatar
    Arctile87
    7 years ago
    Yes, you are right but you miss something important.
    With his "Lord of Hunger" He regains 3% Protection per Buff on his enemy's AT THE BEGINNING OF HIS TURN only. When a debuffed enemy hits Nihilus, the debuffed enemy looses 25% protection and Nihilus gains 25% max protection. But here is the clue - the Nightsisters loose their protection pretty quickly in P4 (in P1 probably not at all^^) and therefore Nihilus shouldn't regain protection at all.
    That is the problem most Players are seeing.
  • GladOS-013's avatar
    GladOS-013
    Hero (Retired)
    7 years ago
    No enemies retain protection for long in phase 4, but we still see the "Protection Drain" message appear when protection-less characters damage Nihilus. Based on this message, it appears that Nihilus is still increasing his protection by 25% of the attacking character's protection even after the character's protection bar is empty. If he didn't do this, these protection gains would be meaningless. The skill doesn't say "If any protection was lost this way, Nihilus gains Protection equal to the lost protection." The "Feed the Void" skill very carefully words the protection regeneration to indicate that he only regains protection if minions were damaged. Perhaps Lord of Hunger could be worded a little more clearly?

    Using some pretty sketchy estimates, I did a calculation that estimated by the time of enrage Nihilus' max protection could be over 2.5M, which would have him regenerate ~300k protection at the start of his turn. If he only gained protection when debuffed enemies attacked him with protection, then he would probably only regenerate ~6-7k per turn, which is meaningless in a heroic raid. If his max protection is 2.5M, and he manages to feed the void with two minions alive, then he'll regain 500k protection - so definitely avoid that.
  • Arctile87's avatar
    Arctile87
    7 years ago
    Of course but that was never the question^^ In my runs the minions are only alive to apply plague to DN/Sion and after that they die of pretty quickly and therefore can't feed DN anymore protection, too.
    Feed the Void protection gain applies only with alive minions and not revived minions.
    In the German translation it says indeed that DN gains the protection equal to the 25% lost one.
    If he still gains protection, even when the toons doesn't have any, it would be pretty strange in terms of skill description. But this is one of the reasons I hope a dev will respond here 😉
    btw thanks for responding 😉
  • GladOS-013's avatar
    GladOS-013
    Hero (Retired)
    7 years ago
    Absolutely! This is the sort of investigation that I like!

    I'm weirdly excited about recording Nightsister runs this week and manually parsing all the numbers - calculating Nihilus' max protection and actual protection value on a hit-by-hit basis, and seeing how high those go.
  • Hi, I’m known as Nikarah in game and on discord.

    I’m one of the NS discord mods, and thought I’d offer some clarity.

    The issue that’s being described here isn’t the protection gained from basic attacks with defense down, and as far as I know isn’t based solely off the max protection of a single character.

    It’s almost as if DN’s protection all of a sudden gains hundreds of thousands of hit-points, and I believe the issue presents itself after an annihilate, and not just of zombie.

    I’ve requested the entire NS discord help us in crowdsourcing the exact cause of this issue, but for the time being (while I have my suspicions), I cannot find a singular root cause.

    during the bug (which for me has twice now lasted the remaining duration of a match), it seems as if only Assaj has enough damage output to make any dent in DNs protection, and Mother Talzin is still capable of doing predictable damage to his health, using her AOE, but his protection seems to be largely untouchable.

    As I know more, I’ll update further.

    -Nikarah

  • GladOS-013's avatar
    GladOS-013
    Hero (Retired)
    7 years ago

    Great, @Nijarah !  That sort of exercise is exactly what I'm trying to do as well.  

    So far I only have anecdotal information, so I'm trying to generate numbers to support whether this is WAI or a bug.  Please share if you guys draw any specific conclusions!  

    I might have to join your Discord server.  I'm involved in the HSTR PRoject, but never gotten involved with specific faction servers.  

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