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- annaliese396 years agoSeasoned Newcomer
"JoAnne65;c-17038535" wrote:
"annaliese39;c-17038178" wrote:
"king_of_simcity7;c-17038036" wrote:
Queen Victoria married her cousin Albert and they have a lot of surviving children.
A good example of why a lack of genetic diversity can become problematic - in this case the spread of hemophilia amongst royals.
Hemophilia was passed through because both parents (cousins in this case) had it. That fact increased the odds. It’s estimated that 4 to 7 percent of children born to first cousins are likely to have birth defects, compared to 3 to 4 percent for children whose parents are more distantly related. That’s not nothing, but it’s also not the end of the world—or the family tree. Victoria and Albert had more children, grandchildren and great-grandchildren who had no hemophilia than those who did. The real issue would arise if the next generation of kids also married their first cousins. Their offspring will have even more DNA in common—and an even greater chance for birth defects. (source).
Apart from the fact a couple can also decide not to have children if they don’t want to take the extra risk. In any case, I seriously object against ‘ew’, because having a higher chance to have children with birth defects is not ew. It’s sad at most, for the persons who it concerns. Like a colleague of mine who is seriously epileptic and has to take heavy medicines that will guarantee (100%) birth defects, if she’d ever get children. She is married and not ew.
Oh no, of course! I don't think 'ew' when cousins marry (and certainly not when people with genetic defects or disabilities do either). I only meant to point out that in some cases there may be risks/difficulties for future generations over time if there is a lack of genetic diversity, such as when royal families insisted on maintaining the royal bloodline. "annaliese39;c-17038602" wrote:
"JoAnne65;c-17038535" wrote:
"annaliese39;c-17038178" wrote:
"king_of_simcity7;c-17038036" wrote:
Queen Victoria married her cousin Albert and they have a lot of surviving children.
A good example of why a lack of genetic diversity can become problematic - in this case the spread of hemophilia amongst royals.
Hemophilia was passed through because both parents (cousins in this case) had it. That fact increased the odds. It’s estimated that 4 to 7 percent of children born to first cousins are likely to have birth defects, compared to 3 to 4 percent for children whose parents are more distantly related. That’s not nothing, but it’s also not the end of the world—or the family tree. Victoria and Albert had more children, grandchildren and great-grandchildren who had no hemophilia than those who did. The real issue would arise if the next generation of kids also married their first cousins. Their offspring will have even more DNA in common—and an even greater chance for birth defects. (source).
Apart from the fact a couple can also decide not to have children if they don’t want to take the extra risk. In any case, I seriously object against ‘ew’, because having a higher chance to have children with birth defects is not ew. It’s sad at most, for the persons who it concerns. Like a colleague of mine who is seriously epileptic and has to take heavy medicines that will guarantee (100%) birth defects, if she’d ever get children. She is married and not ew.
Oh no, of course! I don't think 'ew' when cousins marry (and certainly not when people with genetic defects or disabilities do either). I only meant to point out that in some cases there may be risks/difficulties for future generations over time if there is a lack of genetic diversity, such as when royal families insisted on maintaining the royal bloodline.
No, the ‘ew’ remark wasn’t referring to what you said, sorry for the confusion. And indeed, if families continue marrying within the small circle of their own relatives, it indeed will become a problem. And, not unimportant, probably not based on love.- yeah na. that would make me so uncomfortable because i would know that they were related.
- I don't think i would like it as in game i would know they where related, but if they truly loved eachother then i wouldn't stand in their way, as it's no problem geneticly between 2'cousins.
In real life i have cousins i have never met, and any children from our generation would be oblivios to any relations until it was a bit late (HUM) I also have so much 2'nd cousins that i have given up in trying to find out if i am related to and how. The fact that i don't "sleep around" is probably a blessing in this situation :D - I would, unless :
-i had other plan for that cousin
-they grew up together
Things i might consider first :
- is there anyone more interesting/better looking ?
- how old is that cousin
- how much are they related to that cousin "nani;c-17039101" wrote:
- how much are they related to that cousin
What do you mean?- @JoAnne65 If you're reffering to me for putting the "ew" remark on the poll,I only did so to see if that's what people think. It doesn't reflect my personal view.
"alexjoanroww;c-17039549" wrote:
@JoAnne65 If you're reffering to me for putting the "ew" remark on the poll,I only did so to see if that's what people think. It doesn't reflect my personal view.
I know and I also know it feels ew to a lot of people (so I understand it’s in the poll). I just object to it because there is no rational reason to do so, that’s all. I know there are people who go ew when they hear about same sex couples, or couples with a significant age difference. I’m sure the ew will be real and if you feel it you do, but that doesn’t keep me from objecting.
The reason I made cousins fall in love and have a kid in my game was purely based on genetics by the way. I really liked the daughter my former heir’s brother had got and I loved my next heir. I just wanted to mix their genes, so that’s when I started looking into it, because to me it felt wrong as well. That’s when I learned it’s just less ‘wrong’ as I’d initially thought it was. (so I wasn’t attacking or accusing anyone personally, just that feeling of ew in itself.- Objecting to something is not the same thing as shaming someone off it, please don’t put words in my mouth. Everyone is entitled to their own opinion and will have their own arguments. It does make me sad when people in real life are told they can’t love each other for some reason, won’t deny it, but this topic is about pixel characters, nobody gets hurt ;)
- @JoAnne65
I understand and thank you for clarifying. I actually made this poll because I'm doing a legacy challenge and there's a pair of 2nd cousins who are attracted to each other and I was wondering if I should let them go for it or not.
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