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8 years ago

How to lower fps?

Hopefully someone can help me?

I desperately NEED to lower the fps when I play sims 3. It hits about 170fps max. and maybe 60 fps min.
I have tried pretty much everything. My laptop has a NVIDIA GeForce MX130 graphics card and an integrated graphics card.

- I've changed the vertical sync setting for the integrated GC and my NVIDIA GC and enabled triple buffering ( I don't know how that's supposed to help but I kept reading that it should be on with vertical sync).
- I've gone into every setting possible to tell sims 3 to use the Nvidia GC instead of the integrated one.
- I've installed nvidia inspector and capped the fps, tried 60 fps/ 40 fps got desperate and tried 20 fps and nothing helped.
- I've made sure to have my refresh rate on my monitor and in the sims 3 setting match or be close to the fps cap number.
- I made sure GeForce Experience wasn't forcing my graphics card to run optimal (high) settings for sims 3
- I added the little GeForce icon to my icons to check sims 3 is actually using the nvidia GC

They're just the things I can remember doing but I spent hours trying to fix it so have problem done more things I can't recall.

No matter what I do I cant get the fps to stay between 30-60 (which is what I'd like). My laptop overheats like crazy within minutes of playing, I was able to play for 30-60 mins previously before it got too hot and too loud to play but now it's almost instant. Also the fps is constantly going up and down between 50-170 really quickly, not sure if that's also a problem?

PLEASE help :( I don't know what else to do.

Here's the info I imagine I'll be asked to post -

=== Application info ===
Name: Sims3
Version:
Build: Release
=== Rating info ===
GPU: 5 GPU Memory: 1 CPU: 1 RAM: 4 CPU Speed: 1992 Threading: 3
Adjusted CPU: 2256 RAM: 8108 Adjusted RAM: 7596 Cores: 4
=== Machine info ===
OS version: Windows 8 6.2.9200
OS prod type: 0
OS major ver: 6
OS minor ver: 2
OS SP major ver: 0
OS SP minor ver: 0
OS is 64Bit: 1
CPU: GenuineIntel
Brand: Intel(R) Core(TM) i7-8550U CPU @ 1.80GHz
Family: 6
Model: 14
Cores: 4
HT: 1
x64: 0
Memory: 8108MB
Free memory: 4873MB
User: -
Computer: LAPTOP-
=== Graphics device info ===
Number: 0
Name (driver): NVIDIA GeForce MX130
Name (database): NVIDIA GeForce MX130
Vendor: NVIDIA
Chipset: Vendor: 10de, Device: 174d, Board: 83ce103c, Chipset: 00a2
Driver: nvldumd.dll, Version: 23.21.13.8912, GUID: D7B71E3E-540D-11CF-5C51-C3A318C2DA35
Driver version: 8912
Monitor: \\.\DISPLAY1
Texture memory: 32MB <>
Vertex program: 3.0
Pixel program: 3.0
Hardware TnL: 1

68 Replies

  • The web gives you explanations for those words and what they mean no different than I would explain them to you. The people who help in tech volunteer their personal time to help other players get their game running but this is not a forum for discussing every piece of hardware in a laptop your interested in buying. I spent several hours of my own time trying to help you and it was time for me to leave the conversation to do RL things. . We will tell you if a computer meets requirements or not but it's up to you to research all the features in a specific laptop you want. A few of us have said this over and over. There are people who can assist you on tom's Hardware, Notebook review, and or the company web of the specific laptops you are looking to purchase. HP, Dell, Asus, MSI etc all have their own webs
  • @phoebebebe13
    Sorry again, I didn't realise I couldn't ask those questions. I thought because they were fairly basic inquires about screens that, as you seem to have a lot of experience with different tech, you'd be able to answer my questions on it.
    I can see how I've been heavy with the questions ( I tend to ask a lot of questions generally as I like to have as much info as possible especially so I have no way to misunderstand anything - sorry ) and I appreciate the time you have given me and in no way meant to keep you from more pressing things. Also I assumed that because the questions I had about the screen differences were coming from a '' which would I benefit more from while playing sims '' point of view rather than '' what are they and which is better generally '' that it qualified as something which I could ask on these forums and something I can ask you ( I probably should've pointed out that that's why I was asking, not that I just was interested generally ) I personally don't care much about screens usually but when it comes to gaming I want to get the best image quality and response times I guess? as that's something I keep seeing people mention elsewhere.

    I personally have difficulties with processing lots of information so searching for things online - definitions and descriptions and such, doesn't help me much as I get confused with all the jargon and knowing the definition of a term doesn't really explain to me how it would affect me ( for instance reading about different screen types and how one uses more blue tones and one more white, and one has vertical lines or something and another has standard viewing, one uses my RGB and white light than the other and has backlighting on the screen etc means nothing to mean as I don't know at all how those features would look because I don't know anything about tech and no matter how much I keep googling each term and feature etc it still doesn't mean anything to me )
    So FAQs from specific brands and reading specs about specific laptops doesn't help me (likely a large part of how I ended up with the wrong laptop because hours and hours of research didn't really teach me much - I ended up going for key words like Nvidia, i5 or i7 and Quad core which clearly wasn't enough.

    I prefer forums where I get real people giving me simple definitions and opinions from their experience and they can reword things if I don't understand, from what I've seen this forum is the most helpful and by far contains the most well informed members - having a quick search for things sims related pertaining to screens and tech on toms hardware just threw up a lot of people that are suggesting laptops like the one I have and giving the go ahead for laptops far worse than mine, like any other forum I look on - also how I ended up with the wrong laptop.

    I in no way intended to drain you of knowledge and time, I just wanted the best advice and information possible and it seemed this forum and the more experienced members were the best way to get that.
    Also I'm unable to use toms hardware, everytime I try to log on I get this error -
    ACCESS DENIED
    You don't have permission to access "http://www.tomshardware.co.uk/auth0/callback?" on this server.
    Reference #18.c781655f.1527168814.2474e31b

    I somehow managed to log on only once and after many error pages I finally managed to post on there ( I misworded what I wanted to say and need to edit the post but can't as I can't log in - also I've had no responses - another reason why I prefer this forum as I get quicker and better responses from )
    Which then leaves me with other forums and FAQs that give me confusing info or poor info.

    I feel bad now for being such an annoyance, like I said I have trouble processing information. It's not me being lazy or stupid as people tend to think - It's just how my brain works - I can't help it :/

    I'm getting confused again and am likely to just buy the more expensive one out of fear that in a few months or a year I'll end up in the same position. Or will just keep my laptop and use that until it breaks out of fear I wont be able to sell it and then after buying a new laptop would've collectively spent enough to have bought a laptop like yours.

    This comment is very long because I felt I had a lot to say and needed to explain myself fully.
    Like I said, I feel really bad now because it sounds like you're fed up with me and annoyed with me - which I imagine I would be too if I were in your position.
    It seems like I'm intentionally being ignorant and lazy but I can assure you I'm not.
    I always gravitate to the quickest, easiest, most ''human response'' and seemingly most informed response that I can - rather than waste days and hours trying to collect a bunch of info I'm not going to understand.


    Sorry.
  • LED screen is better than LCD. I don't know why you are getting errors on Tom's hardware. There are real people on there answering questions. Also on notebook review. You sometimes have to wait. People don't answer right away. This also goes on in this forum because people volunteer their time to help others. None of us work for EA. We use are own free time to help other players. EA staff will move you to off topic if you start asking a bunch of hardware questions that are not specific to sims tech help. What kind of screen you want, do you need widi in your laptop do not pertain to the sims. This is just really not the kind of forum to be asking all these extra questions not pertaining to the sims.
  • @phoebebebe13 I didn't realise it was only for if your laptop will overheat or crash or run out of space if you have sims, not for that and also if the image will be poor or colours will be really bad or the screen won't be able to display features how they should because of the poor quality or it'll lag or idek what. I just thought any tech questions that are being asked because the person wants to know if that tech will be beneficial for a simmer was something that was acceptable. My mistake, but now I know I guess.

    I've got it in my head that its better to get i7 because overtime there will be more sims games as the franchise is expanded and they will require stronger and stronger hardware. Is that a fair assumption or am I completely off the mark here. Or once again is this something that I can't ask here?

    Thanks for the help. I'll just leave this discussion after the above is clarified then. I imagine that's what I'm supposed to do now.
  • It's not only for laptop. Desktops can overheat if they don't have proper cooling or the computer has allot of dust blocking air flow. No matter what you have laptop or desktop, they can overheat which can case permanent damage to computer hardware.

    the i7 is better than the i5. the sims 4 is processor heavy so the i5 would be more beneficial for that game. The sims 3 would be fine with the newer i7 and is not as processor heavy as the sims 4.

    the the LED screen is better than the LCD screen
  • so if i want to play sims 4 and 3
    i5 is best because sims 4 will play better on i5 than i7 and sims 3 will be fine with i5 and also i7 because it doesn't require i5 as it isn't processor heavy. But possibly i7 would have the sims 3 run better but regardless I'll have better luck with sims 4 on i5.
    I think that's what you're saying right?
    Get the cheaper i5 one because it will be best for both sims 3 and sims 4 whereas the expensive i7 will be slightly better for sims but not enough for it to matter but would be considerably worse for sims 4 enough that it'll matter. Hopefully I have that right.
    If I have got that right then that answers all my question and I'm confident I can go and make a good choice now thanks to your help.

    Still don't know why the i5 LED laptop isn't listed as a gaming laptop :/ it's unnerving me making me think it'll fail with gaming -.-

  • @iEllaLouise - I can understand your confusion, and you do have a determination to understand more about the difference between the achieve vs gaming machine.

    One of the things to keep in mind is that we need to avoid 'a bit too much' reductionism. IOW, it seems like the components making up each of the machines seem ideal in different ways but it's actually the composition of the WHOLE computer that really makes the difference.

    The Curry's site is about marketing, you don't see details like how each build is created to manage the hardware with different installed firmware that goes with the installed motherboard and more expensive memory modules and so on. There's no information on the motherboard and other such hardware at most markets. Think of it this way: It's like buying 25 dollar copy of a 5000 dollar designer dress. The computers are made up of many different components and software aspects that are targeted to a specific consumer group. And this is the stuff that will throw you into serious tech disadvantage. It's beyond what we can cover here.

    So if Curry's and HP are aiming at the the gamer population, they will show that a machine is directly targeted toward that specific population of consumers. Beware there are low end, medium and high end gaming machines. Some low end machines will play a game (for a while) but the user experience and (in)stability may differ greatly with reportedly included hardware. (I'll say this now: I'm no fan of HP's lineup for reasons having to do with reputation of HP in the GAMER community -- and among those who repair said "gaming machines" -- for HP machines tend to be overrepresented.)

    One way to compare machines and learn more about particulars, is to take the official name(s) of the computer(s) and enter it into your own internet search template (a template which you should modify for your own use)-
    'machine1 vs machine2' (reviews)
    -be aware that this is just a template and what comes up in the search may not even be the computer you are researching.

    And finally.
    Logging into websites can be an issue regarding clearing cache (your first step usually) and also trying a different browser.
    For Tomshardware specifically, Why not do a search for ideas, using something like:
    Tom's Hardware login issues

    When you are actually ready to make a choice in a gaming computer, that is the time to consult these forums. The hardware in the computers being sold now may change drastically in as little as half a year or less. Good luck!
  • "SemaviLady;c-16489583" wrote:
    @iEllaLouise - I can understand your confusion, and you do have a determination to understand more about the difference between the achieve vs gaming machine.

    One of the things to keep in mind is that we need to avoid 'a bit too much' reductionism. IOW, it seems like the components making up each of the machines seem ideal in different ways but it's actually the composition of the WHOLE computer that really makes the difference.

    The Curry's site is about marketing, you don't see details like how each build is created to manage the hardware with different installed firmware that goes with the installed motherboard and more expensive memory modules and so on. There's no information on the motherboard and other such hardware at most markets. Think of it this way: It's like buying 25 dollar copy of a 5000 dollar designer dress. The computers are made up of many different components and software aspects that are targeted to a specific consumer group. And this is the stuff that will throw you into serious tech disadvantage. It's beyond what we can cover here.

    So if Curry's and HP are aiming at the the gamer population, they will show that a machine is directly targeted toward that specific population of consumers. Beware there are low end, medium and high end gaming machines. Some low end machines will play a game (for a while) but the user experience and (in)stability may differ greatly with reportedly included hardware. (I'll say this now: I'm no fan of HP's lineup for reasons having to do with reputation of HP in the GAMER community -- and among those who repair said "gaming machines" -- for HP machines tend to be overrepresented.)

    One way to compare machines and learn more about particulars, is to take the official name(s) of the computer(s) and enter it into your own internet search template (a template which you should modify for your own use)-
    'machine1 vs machine2' (reviews)
    -be aware that this is just a template and what comes up in the search may not even be the computer you are researching.

    And finally.
    Logging into websites can be an issue regarding clearing cache (your first step usually) and also trying a different browser.
    For Tomshardware specifically, Why not do a search for ideas, using something like:
    Tom's Hardware login issues

    When you are actually ready to make a choice in a gaming computer, that is the time to consult these forums. The hardware in the computers being sold now may change drastically in as little as half a year or less. Good luck!


    Thankyou for all that info
    That makes a lot of sense. I’m ready to pick and in another discussion I posted the 5 laptops with differing specs that I’m trying to choose between but now I’m unsure as they are all HP laptops
    I like HP appearance and feel and their gaming laptops I’m looking at are lighter than others
    It just easier for me to pick one of those cause I know I like HP and these other brands don’t stand out to me as I’ve no experience with them
    I’m aware that acer is good for gaming but their laptops are heavy and chunky. If HP really is a terrible idea then ofcourse I’ll have to look again at other laptops

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