thanks for the help just want to say that it works good as well once you have done that but i know its a pain in the back side while your playing sims 3 and it keeps mimimizing i know this works as ive tried it my self and it did sort out the problem and i say thanks to you for the advice . but would like to say tho its a pain some times when you have to keep doing that for the game to work since oragin took over the sims 3 Game its never been the same when ea games had it we never had thees stuiped problem so oragin if you read this please help us all and send us a patch that works insted of sending us the * that messes things up thanks