[OPEN] [CL] [S] Death types missing for children

@Kittybass - I can also confirm that children can die from pufferfish. Not through personal experience, but from a Call Me Kevin video. He created a restaurant for Jim Pickens that only serves pufferfish and a little girl died.

Ok... This problem goes deeper.

So then, death traits are now filtered to appear for specific ages and occults.

This means the following:

• Children that die by Pufferfish, Steam, Overheating, or Freezing will not become a ghost. If you make them a playable ghost in these cases, they'll react to becoming a ghost, but won't be one.
• As an adult dog, Captain Whitaker will no longer be a ghost.
• Because of the Old Age restriction, Island Elementals will always be generated as an elder now and existing younger elementals won't be a ghost.

This... messed things up indeed.

Well, they are definitely bugged in older saves. I had some pufferfish death kids that died 5 generations before and next thing I knew is that they were eternal teens wandering town as homeless sims. They were definitely dead because their graves were in a cemetery I made. I ended up having to age them up to elders to let them "die" again. They had traits and aspirations I would never have given them. So this patch has definitely done something to child sims who died by something other than drowning/fire in previous saves. I can't share the save file because I've already taken care of it by aging these dead-but-not-dead ancestors up to elders and letting them die again.

@EgonVMThey also appear restricted to packs even some base game deaths are restricted to packs (you need werewolves for meteor, and the recently made base game due to happy at home and high school years death by vending machine requires snowy escape) Also meteor is one of the child deaths as well.

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@Veemo8 wrote:

@EgonVMThey also appear restricted to packs even some base game deaths are restricted to packs (you need werewolves for meteor, and the recently made base game due to happy at home and high school years death by vending machine requires snowy escape) Also meteor is one of the child deaths as well.

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Oh wow, I took a look into the Update Announcement video (which used only base game and Vampires), I noticed that yeah, Death by Meteor and Death by Vending Machine are missing.

Didn't notice these before. Nice catch!

Meteor being one of child deaths too... Interesting... I didn't have it happen when I tested it out (used telescope, got the warning, let the moodlet expire, nothing happened), but seeing as others say it has happened, I'll guess that Meteor is indeed one of the ways children can die by.

@Veemo8 wrote:

@EgonVM The death types are only restricted to occults in CAS, I cheated a mermaid to be death by drowning and it worked! But I agree these unnecessary restrictions were an oversight.

Interesting... It seems like then that the occult part in the tuning files tell which occult it can appear to in CAS... So occults that died by a "wrong death" won't be affected then...

The ghost traits use the same filter now that the other traits do. While this does prevent them from appearing in CAS, this also prevents the game from even equipping the trait, through gameplay or through cheats.

I only see one true solution here: introduce a new filter that only filters out ages in CAS, and remove the current age filter, making the ghost traits universal again and preventing quirky issues like this from happening.

Plus, there are still more weirdness in CAS. Teens have emotional deaths available, even though they can't die by emotions, Cringe sims cannot die by laughter, yet you can create Cringe laughter ghost etc...

Do it like The Sims 3 did: have every death available to every age and restrict those two occult-only deaths to those occults.

Product: The Sims 4
Platform:PC
Which language are you playing the game in? Brazilian PORTUGUESE
How often does the bug occur? Every time (100%)
What is your current game version number? 1.110.265.1030
What expansions, game packs, and stuff packs do you have installed? Seasons (this bug is from this pack)
Steps: How can we find the bug ourselves? Have your CHILD Sim die by freezing or overheat
What happens when the bug occurs? The kid die as normal, but when you add them to the family via the new urn/grave option, they come back alive. Also, there’s no ghost type for these deaths in CAS.
What do you expect to see? The kid get the ghost types, overheat or freezing, trait and become a ghost as they should.
Have you installed any customization with the game, e.g. Custom Content or Mods? Yes, but this bug IS NOT caused by one of my mods. You can test that in your games, the same thing will happen.
Did this issue appear after a specific patch or change you made to your system? Yes, the new patch. They forgot about this.

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@EgonVMI agree, also allow adult pets to become ghosts due to Capitan Whitaker. Also do you mean only restrict the occult ghost types in CAS, but still allow them for cheating? Because if a spellcaster overload ghost doesn’t want to be a spellcaster they should stay an overload ghost

Also unrestrict the DLC death types because that’s what sims 3 did.  Also I think it’s more like the sims 3 to have all deaths available in cas including the occult only ones, old age for non-elders, and all deaths for children. Also here’s some images showcasing that sims 3 didn’t restrict death type by age, occult and DLC in CAS. (I had only the game itself and supernatural installed) I created an old age YA ghost and child electrocution ghost to demonstrate.  Also occult death types like haunting curse (only for witches) are available.