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- Yes! I loved the descriptions.
- GrumpyGlowfishSeasoned NewcomerYes, please! That was one of the first missing features I noticed and I've been wanting it back since I started playing TS4.
- You mean the Sim Bios? The lil descriptions you got per sim? Those I miss greatly, they were so comical and gave pre-made families a reason to be used because you wanted to continue/discover their story. In sims 4 the only hints of a bio you get are in the lot/family descriptions and even those are quite short for a game that used to be story driven/promotional of creativity.
With the Sims 2 storyboard option I was very keen of following up on the Smith family, updating their lives and such with Johnny and his relationship with the surviving Specter girl. With sims 4 I feel they've forgotten about all of that, the stories and making their own creations pop.
Sims is/was about life, and Staff seem far more busy with pleasing Simmers carrying a god complex more than they do Simmers here to create.
Its not a lot to ask for a storyboard/bio feature for the game. I miss it and hope that as they approach family play more they bring back the ability to add stories and such to your photographs. Bring about the return of memories so you can relive the fun and tragedy experienced during the generations you've created with each passing family/sim. Especially now pets is days away from being released. - Magdaleena96Seasoned NewcomerI admit I never used the sim bio feature much myself, for my own sims, mostly because I knew who they were myself and never intended to share them at the exchange/gallery, but it's still honestly an important thing to include. I've also kind of changed, so at this point, it might actually be pretty likely for me to write up little bios for my sims. If only I could. It would be nice to get back.
And if nothing else, it adds more lore to the premades, the individual sims, something I miss greatly in Sims 4. Why isn't there more focus on the storytelling?
We only have vague info about the households themselves, there isn't exactly much that compels me to actually try playing the premade townies. Which I guess makes sense to the game, what with how you're always brought into CAS when you start a new save. It's like we're expected to only care about our own sims this time around. Still, not a good excuse for omitting the bio box.
I may not have played the premades much in Sims 3, I was still a lot more inclined to go create my own sims, BUT--
Back when I tried Sims 2, I actually played with the premades? I was more interested in them than in my own sims? What I remember is that I messed around with the Curious brothers, they all wound up getting alien kids, I wanted to see them grow up. I wanted to see this odd little family progress. One of the brothers died once, but I managed to win against the Grim Reaper in chess so he stayed alive. It was great.The only downside is that I was playing it on my school laptop, which I lost the charger to, so I haven't been able to progress much....
I can easily see how a lot of people regard TS2 as the best one in the series, there is so much built-in storytelling and I wish the others had as much lore too! But no, Sims 4 isn't even in the same timeline... Honestly it makes me wonder where the writing team went. Probably explains why there is no bio feature. And maybe they didn't consider that maybe we'd want that.
Or maybe they didn't include it because that means they'd have to come up with lore for all their individual premade townies too. Something tells me they didn't want to do that. :/ - @Magdaleena Yes in ts2 I cared about the premades because of the stories! And all the mysteries behind them. They gave descriptions per sim in each family, plus a family description, and photos in the album with no description which made you come to your own conclusions on the past. This was especially interesting with the disappearance of bella goth. There is no lore in TS4, not even a backstory for the hidden places, like forgotten grotto. That couldve been a really great part of a story. I think they tried initially to please a little bit of everyone and no one was happy. Storytellers and builders seem to be the last of us who arent offered enough in ts4.
- Magdaleena96Seasoned Newcomer
"StrawberryYogurt;c-16141464" wrote:
@Magdaleena Yes in ts2 I cared about the premades because of the stories! And all the mysteries behind them. They gave descriptions per sim in each family, plus a family description, and photos in the album with no description which made you come to your own conclusions on the past. This was especially interesting with the disappearance of bella goth. There is no lore in TS4, not even a backstory for the hidden places, like forgotten hollow. That couldve been a really great part of a story. I think they tried initially to please a little bit of everyone and no one was happy. Storytellers and builders seem to be the last of us who arent offered enough in ts4.
Yeah!!! From the little I can tell, Forgotten Hollow is easily one of the more interesting neighborhoods in TS4. It's not very detailed, though, going by the household descriptions alone. I wish we knew more; so far all we know is that Vlad has been pretending to be his own descendants for a very long time (extremely implied anyway), and that the Vatores moved in more recently and the two households don't agree with each other about food preferences. And from their powers/weaknesses one can get more clues about who they are. Like how Caleb has perfect sun resistance.
There is one uninhabited house filled with garlic too, though I haven't explored it enough to figure out why; realistically EA probably just put it there for any human sims to move into, but from a lore perspective it does makes me wonder. Who lived there before? Was it a vampire slayer? Where did they go? Did they die of age, leaving the house behind? Died for any other reasons? Did Vlad get rid of this sim? Who knows. I mean, I haven't looked enough on that particular lot to find any gravestones, urns or anything, but heck. Please tell me there's a gravestone there. That would be amazing.
What if the one who lived there had a lore skill at Level 15 and kept making vampire cures, humanizing pretty much everyone there but Vlad, who defeated them. Everyone ended up dying after a while because nobody were immortal anymore. Then the Vatore siblings moved in later on. What if that's why the population is so incredibly tiny. What if.
Sorry, I kinda went off on a longer tangent there, I just love this neighborhood, ahahhaa,, - Magdaleena96Seasoned Newcomer
"StrawberryYogurt;c-16141680" wrote:
@Magdaleena whoops my bad i meant forgotten grotto not hollow...im confusing myself now lol i dont have vampires..
But the point still stands! There is a lot of potential for lore in ts4 thats left out...even just with the scenery like the ferry in the first neighborhood, why there is a dino icon in the sandy neighborhood etc
ahaha whoops i didn't even realize forgotten *grotto* was A Thing, my bad really!
i'm... guessing that's a hidden world? is that what the cave was called? i still haven't gotten far enough on my handiness skill to visit it yet.
you're right though, i'd really like to know about the dinosaur in oasis springs.. as far as i know it's only a backdrop item?
there's apparently a sea monster in windenburg too. pls i want my sims to interact with these big creatures - EgonVMSeasoned AceOne thing that I really liked in The Sims 1 was that I can see other sim's bio by hovering cursor over them in the relationship panel. The same thing is possible in The Sims 1 and The Sims 2 on the consoles (I don't know if it is possible in The Sims 3 on console...) and I really liked it.
Maybe if they add sim bios back, they'll add a way to see other sim's bios. "Magdaleena;c-16143436" wrote:
"StrawberryYogurt;c-16141680" wrote:
@Magdaleena whoops my bad i meant forgotten grotto not hollow...im confusing myself now lol i dont have vampires..
But the point still stands! There is a lot of potential for lore in ts4 thats left out...even just with the scenery like the ferry in the first neighborhood, why there is a dino icon in the sandy neighborhood etc
ahaha whoops i didn't even realize forgotten *grotto* was A Thing, my bad really!
i'm... guessing that's a hidden world? is that what the cave was called? i still haven't gotten far enough on my handiness skill to visit it yet.
you're right though, i'd really like to know about the dinosaur in oasis springs.. as far as i know it's only a backdrop item?
there's apparently a sea monster in windenburg too. pls i want my sims to interact with these big creatures
Grotto i think is the one in the tree...the handinedss one i think leads to an underground lake. But ya imagine what you could write about that...- I miss the sim bio feature too. In TS2 I either do original characters for that save or sim versions of the characters from stories I've previously either written or played out in my head for my own amusement. I liked adding their bios in CAS and updating them as I played (even though I never used the storyboard or uploaded their stories online), for my own entertainment. It's like getting to be the writer, director, and producer of your own private T.V. series: One that's tailored specifically to your genre and storyline preferences and won't get kicked off the air prematurely because of ratings or attracting the "wrong demographic." (And, yes, I know commercial television is a business and they need to make money, but that doesn't mean that I have to like their business practices...especially when said business practices come between me and that all-too-rare darn-near perfect show, causing it to get canceled for some bland, generic dreck like a reality show with contrived and, ultimately, scripted scenarios and people acting like jerks 24/7 or an overly-dramatized primetime gameshow that relies on lame suspenseful music and cutting to commercial just before something actually finally happens to keep people watching that boring piece of broadcasted garbage!!...Can you tell that I've been somewhat scarred by that period in the early 2000's when Fox kept dropping good primetime shows like John Doe and Firefly left and right for crappy reality shows?)
I really would love the sim bios to make a return, as well as giving us a way to sort screenshots by save (automatically giving us separate sub-folders in the screenshots folder for each save would be much appreciated...and better organization of the in-game screenshot manager while we're at it, since that thing is an unwieldy nightmare). It would really enhance the gameplay experience...for players like me, at least.
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