New type of "canning" gameplay

I can't choose, all three sound good to me! Butter churning, cheese making and oil making for salads. I would love feta cheese added along with other fine cheeses, ability to craft bottles of salad dressings, and a toaster oven to make toast for the butter. :smile:

All the above please. ;)

Spice blends and bottled water and soap would also be nice.

Can’t we already make cheese with milk with cottage living? A butter churn would be nice, and I wish we could grow wheat and make our own flour, grow corn and make our own cornmeal, so that we could use them for cooking.

i would say canning tomatos

"SheriSim57;c-18082247" wrote:
Can’t we already make cheese with milk with cottage living? A butter churn would be nice, and I wish we could grow wheat and make our own flour, grow corn and make our own cornmeal, so that we could use them for cooking.

We cannot make cheese or butter which was a major criticism of the pack at the time of release. The butterchurn was a no brainer given the cows.

All 3 of the above.

"Mak27;d-998494" wrote:
Butter "churning", no "churner". My mistake

Question: by "oil making" do you mean oil pressing, like for olive oil?

It made me think of a cider press also, because both an oil press and a cider/apple press, you need a fairly large apparatus to make it worthwhile, and probably an orchard. It's not practical on the scale of an individual household because you need so much pressure. And livestock to feed the leavings to, after you've pressed the apples or olives.


I hope by "oil making" it didn't just mean taking premade oil from the store, and infusing aromatics in that. That's not oil making at all, that's...preparing an infusion.

ETA: there are some issues with the idea of trying to put grinding wheat into flour or maize into meal on an individual household level, into the game:

The peoples who originally cultivated and depended on maize did grind it individually, but it was long hours of hard manual work each day for a substantial portion of each household, and in the post-agrarian world it's not done by the household, but in large mills, like other grains.

The agrarian way of life wasn't an idealized every-household-self-sufficient type of thing, but was heavily interdependent: many basic forms of life support depended on things that no single household could accomplish all by itself, so there are limits to what would make any sense, in trying to make it scalable to a single-household form of production. In the days of actual thatched-roof pre-industrial European villages, people carried sacks of whole grains to the grainmill, and paid a fee to the miller, to put it through the large millstone turned by wooden gears and shafts moved by a waterwheel usually. Same with pressing oil from olive groves, or cider from apple orchards: it's much easier and more efficiently done on a large scale.

Even if it could all be scaled down to an individual level, it would destroy the need for, and function of, the village, because at its heart, a village is a grouping of households together, for the purpose of surviving better via specialization, the economy of scale, cooperation, and mutual protection.

I realize the "village" aspect of that pack is very surface-level window-dressing, and that most of the appeal of it is just a cosmetic cottagecore fantasy, but if we're talking gameplay, remove any need for a village, and you stop having one.

@SheriSim57 There is no cheesemaking object, and only one type of cheese, but you can cook a round block of cheese from milk. It can be used as an ingredient in recipes with cheese, or the Sims can eat slices of it. I'm not sure if it's actually cheese though? It's called cheese, but since MWS it has a 'cut cake' option, so maybe it is a cheesecake?

"redrogue60;c-18082710" wrote:

"SheriSim57;c-18082247" wrote:
Can’t we already make cheese with milk with cottage living? A butter churn would be nice, and I wish we could grow wheat and make our own flour, grow corn and make our own cornmeal, so that we could use them for cooking.

We cannot make cheese or butter which was a major criticism of the pack at the time of release. The butterchurn was a no brainer given the cows.

We can make cheese. It's a Cooking recipe, not a Canning one. Requires 2x milk and makes an 8 wedge cheese wheel (12 wedges if made with group cooking).