[RL] All family members except heir lose/demote title when monarch dies

I had an issue with this since day 1. It's beyond me how they thought this was a good design choice for nobility to work in game. IT. MAKES. NO. SENSE. They have to fix asap. Hope a mod comes out to fix it tho.....

I'd love to know whether they consulted people who have some knowledge about how aristocracy and royalty both function in the real world.  

I have became frustrated with both of these points as well. To “fix” the issue I tried to make only one noble family per world, then change all of the titles to the same. So Willow Creek always has a Duke/Duchess, Forgotten Hollow an Earl/Countess, Glimmerbrook always has a Supreme, Sulani always has a Chief, etc.  By putting the lowest title as what the child would be called I can put them in noble career, and make the second lowest title a Dowager title for the spouse of the former noble. However, this still would require me to place all of them in the noble career, which I’m fine with if I don’t intend to play the non-heirs actively. However, the titles resetting every time I swap neighborhoods is extremely frustrating because it ruins my attempts to rectify this mess.

As for those that I don’t want in the career I have stuck to editing their names in create a sim like I used to with my nobility before having this pack. Only downside any Princess can only have a 5 letter name. Any former Marchioness can only have a 2 letter name.

This title system is a total joke. Especially because so much effort is required to make it reflect how it would really be. Majorly disappointed. This pack should have never been released if the Sims team doesn’t understand how actual titles work. 

Hi there, I've noticed an issue with the new expansion pack. Basically, when my sim dies, all his children except for his heir lose their titles, making them civilians after growing up royals. Is this a known bug? Furthermore, Titles in different worlds keep resetting. For example, I made it so the title associated with level 10 would be Emperor in Oasis Springs, and Grand Duke in Newcrest. However, when I changed it to "Chief" in Chestnut Ridge, both titles in Oasis Springs and Newcrest reverted back to the basic "king" title. 

Can you pass along this feedback to the team? 

I posted about it on twitter and it's getting a lot of attention. Over 3k likes now. Seems like a lot of people are upset by this decision. Title's shouldn't be removed when a family member dies, that's not how it works historically or in modern royalty.  The spouse of the Queen or King becomes a Dowager, the heir ascends to King or Queen, and their siblings stay princes or princesses. 

https://x.com/LuckyLunayre/status/2024665599343755548

It's completely stopped me from playing at the moment until I can find a work around or hopefully a mod fixes it. Such a weird design choice.

Yeah Please pass along the feedback! 

In real life if a Queen Consort's  husband dies, they would become Dowager Queen. 

The Prince's and Princesses would still keep their titles, but their heir would become King/Queen. 

I really think a Dowager Queen/King title should be added when a Sim becomes a widow.  You wouldn't lose nobility just because your spouse/parent died.  

You wouldn't have any ruling power, but you would still be honored with noble titles and have a place in court.

I find this a bizarre design choice too.  I'm interested in the pack but this does put me off somewhat.

Luckylunayre​ 

I merged your post with the main thread on this.

for me (i had 1 sibling and the heir in the noble career and 1 sibling not in a career) the heir got the title, the career sibling got the career title, and the non-career sibling became a normal sim. so yes 'as designed' and not a bug, but it's just a weird choice? why would they loose their title, that's not how nobility works. the siblings of the king are still princes and princesses? why would they randomly become non-nobles