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brenjay91
Seasoned Ace
2 days ago

Sims smarter but less autonomous?

Has anyone else noticed that Sims seem significantly less lively since the recent update?

 

Before the update, my Sims were much more independent. They would autonomously initiate conversations, flirt with one another, socialize, and perform activities that seemed influenced by their individual personalities and traits. It made the game feel alive because I could watch relationships and interactions develop naturally without constantly directing them.

 

Since the update, I’ve noticed a significant decrease in this behavior.

 

Now, my Sims primarily take care of their basic needs and read books. They’ll occasionally talk to one another, but the spontaneous conversations, romantic interactions, and personality-driven behaviors that were previously common seem to have almost disappeared.

 

Even Sims who are already romantically involved seem much less likely to initiate affection or flirtation independently.

 

I personally noticed this change almost immediately after updating.

 

One of the biggest appeals of The Sims 4 is watching Sims make their own decisions based on their personalities, relationships, and emotions. Without that spontaneity, the gameplay feels noticeably more repetitive and less engaging.

 

I’m concerned that recent adjustments to autonomy may have unintentionally reduced these behaviors too much.

 

I’d really appreciate it if the development team could investigate whether autonomous social, romantic, and personality-driven interactions have been negatively affected by the update.

 

Has anyone else experienced this? I’d love to know whether other players have noticed the same change.

7 Replies

  • TA1111's avatar
    TA1111
    Seasoned Ace
    8 hours ago

    I agree.  Romance adjustments were needed.  

    The inappropriate flirting within families was terrible.  Rotating between households and dealing with an unhappy couple and low satisfaction was terrible.  

  • brenjay91​ for years players have asked for autonomous flirting to be toned down. It's something that many of us feel should be controlled by the player because it often resulted in inappropriate relationships, like with committed Sims flirting with others. Sims were gaining romance bars with strangers on the street. I often had to exit my game without saving to get rid of a romance bar with a random Sim, or delete that Sim. We reported it as a bug because it was adversely affected our storylines. For example I had a mother's new husband flirt with her daughters autonomously and ruin that new blended household. So for those reasons so many players wanted this tuned out as much as possible to give us control over our Sims relationships and romance bars. Even the Unflirty and Romantically Reserved Sims were affected. Flirty group conversations in bars ruined dates, the list of problems goes on. 

    You can make your Sims more flirty with personality traits, make them Beguiling with a Reward Trait, get them to watch Romance TV to make your Sims more flirty. Add flirty items to your lots such as Flirty Paintings to create a flirty mood.

  • brenjay91's avatar
    brenjay91
    Seasoned Ace
    1 day ago

    I think it’s gotta be the last update that’s made them this way, I really hope the sims team fixes it, I think more people are going to eventually begin to notice if it’s from what they did with the autonomy. 

  • brenjay91's avatar
    brenjay91
    Seasoned Ace
    1 day ago

    Yeah it’s like their personalities are muted or something 

  • Yeah, I've noticed them being a bit weird. I couldn't quite put my finger on what it was. 

  • TA1111's avatar
    TA1111
    Seasoned Ace
    1 day ago

    +1 👍 for the thought and care you gave to discussing how autonomy is operating in your gameplay.  Am I noticing the same?  Some.  I'll have to review my previous notes about autonomy and compare to present to respond well.  Since the Sept update I've experienced improvements and then other areas that still need tuning.    

    brenjay91 wrote:

    their not acting any different from one another.

    I see this in my Immortal Sims that are 2 years old real time.  Their personality seems less or muted now.  I didn't have celebrity or fame then but my outgoing, self assured, party guy's personality and body language was BIG when he walked in the club. 
    "I have arrived"  lol   I thought his behaviors/personality came from his traits.      

  • brenjay91's avatar
    brenjay91
    Seasoned Ace
    1 day ago

    I don’t know about you but I’m a player than enjoys setting the stage and watching what my sims do, who they talk too, how their traits impact their socialization and relationships and life. I don’t like micromanaging every little bit of it. Since this recent update my sims are mostly just standing around looking around, even when sims are nearby. These sims were suppose to be behave more intelligently since the autonomy update but I feel like besides taking care of their needs and occasionally small chatting other sims their not doing anything besides standing around or reading books. All my sims are obsessed with reading books now.

    I feel like the autonomy is broken I think it was way better before, at least sims we”re coming up with their own conversations, flirting, behaving in ways that had to do with their traits, the game felt more lively, Im sorry to say I feel like this update took that away and I’d really like it fixed. Is anyone else noticing this? Maybe it’s just broken in my game, because I don’t know if anyone else is noticing it? But I can barely play now because all they do is stand around, their not acting any different from one another. I was really excited for this update I thought it would improve what we already have but I feel like as far as Autonomy goes it took a huge step back, like years back.

    I hope they fix this and make it the way it was, I don’t want more intelligent sims if they are gojng to be this dull. Their reminding me of mindless robots not emotional beings that they were starting to become. I hope this doesn’t sound mean I mean it as constructive criticism and really hope it will get fixed. 

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