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Adelaide_Astraea
Seasoned Scout
1 month ago

Spouse Noble Rival

Notes: This is from the new Royalty & Legacy Pack. I first posted this in the Gameplay Issues, becuse I thought it might be something wrong on my end. Now I think it is a glitch/bug.

 

Post 1: I made a married couple both in the Noble career. The wife was promoted to Queen and the husband automatically received the title King. But now the husband's work panel shows his wife as a "Noble Rival is an adversary at court who blocks the path to promotion."

Obviously this doesn't work with my story. The husband is King because his wife is Queen. I don't know how to fix this and it is messing up my play; it's also causing bad buffs between them and it's hurting their relationship (even though they were 100% friendly & romantic before the promotion). They are NOT rivals. They are on the same team! 

Any suggestions on how to fix this? Or is this something EA has to fix? Married sims should have some option to NOT be rivals in the noble career. Can we have some option to choose who is or isn't a rival? 

 

Post 2: Some more information on this still unresolved issue.

I noticed that on the pop-up info on noble rival "Marriage" is one of the solutions.

Since I married my sims in CAS when creating them, I thought maybe they need an actual wedding ceremony (I do own Wedding Stories).

So I changed them in CAS to Partners. I had the man propse, she accepted, and I held a simple wedding ceremony where they excahnged vows. 

I had hoped this would effect a change and they wouldn't be rivals anymore. But alas, it didn't change the Rival status.

The man's title WAS changed however, when he was only the partner and engaged, his title matched where he is in the noble career. Once they made their vows in the wedding ceremony, his title was changed back to King.

I would appreciate some feedback from the EA team. I am pretty sure this is NOT what is supposed to happen.

If Marriage is supposed to resolve the Rival status, that's a pretty huge glitch that it doesn't work. It is breaking a vital part of the story in the game mechanics for the Royalty & Legacy Pack.

 

Post 3: In my current household I have 4 out of 6 sims in the Noble Career. Two of them are low to medium in the Noble career. I have tried demoting and promoting the husband to different levels of the Noble career (using MCCC), and in all of them his wife is still the rival.

Oddly enough, the other household members (who are relatives and in the same dyansty under the Queen's Headship over this dyanasty), neither of them see her as a rival, which is odd to me. You'd think the brother & nephew would see the Queen as a Rival; and the Husband, who has title King becasue of his marriage to her, would not see his wife as a Rival.

I am thinking this must be a glitch. Even after trying a Wedding Ceremony between them the Rival status did not change. 

Also a note, the wife/Queen does not see her husband as a Rival. Only the husband/King sees his wife as a Rival. I think that's becasue she is higher ranked than him in the Noble career, and only one person can be in the Level 10 Monarch role.

It still doesn't make sense for the King to see his wife as a Rival. (At least the way I am trying to play. Maybe others enjoy their Sims' marriages fraught with rivalry, lol.)

I am still hoping there will be some update to fix this issue. An option to to check/uncheck for Spouses/Patners are Never Rivals in the Noble Career.

 

Thank you for any help anyone can give!

18 Replies

  • angelicacimino's avatar
    angelicacimino
    Rising Traveler
    1 month ago

    Adelaide_Astraea​ sad thing is, i’m on console 😭😭 mods are out of the picture for me. yesterday evening though, i tried the “duel for noble rivalry” and it worked! i mean, it solved the rivalry by demoting the loser of the duel who ended up being the husband who inherited the king title through the actual queen, but it worked nonetheless. i have a hunch though that it’s gonna happen again at some point, sadly.

  • Gingerymoon's avatar
    Gingerymoon
    1 month ago

    Even though I was right that this was by design, I am not happy with this. I'd like to leave feedback that I also am sure it should not work this way. And spouses should not see each other as Rivals by default. It might be a good idea to tie rivalry to the couple's dynamic EA_Solaire​ . So that certain family dynamics would proc rivalry, while others would not. And working on the family dynamic would affect the rivalry situation. I think it would be interesting and logical.

  • borin777's avatar
    borin777
    Seasoned Scout
    30 days ago

    I think this happens because the Nobility system is tied to the career mechanic. If you have a married couple, only one of them actually needs to be in the Noble career, since the spouse will automatically inherit the corresponding title. For example, if a female Sim is a Queen through the Noble career, her spouse will automatically become King, even if he’s not in the Noble career himself.

    However, if both Sims are in the same Noble career track, the game seems to interpret them as rivals instead of spouses sharing status. My guess is that the Dynasty system might be a workaround for this — but I’m not completely sure about that.

  • SquinkyDinki's avatar
    SquinkyDinki
    Seasoned Newcomer
    27 days ago

    I have the exact same issue, word for word.  My Sim's husband in my story was supposed to kind of sit back and encourage her so now that he sees her as his rival it's kind of ruining my gameplay. Hope this gets fixed soon :(

  • SquinkyDinki's avatar
    SquinkyDinki
    Seasoned Newcomer
    27 days ago

    Quick edit: I had my Sim's husband leave the career, rejoin it and cheated it back up to level 8 (using MCCC). Although he makes a couple hundred less now, he does not view his wife, the Queen as his rival since she technically isn't blocking his promotion.

  • I'm having this issue also (no mods, PC). There's a bug report here: 

    https://forums.ea.com/idea/the-sims-4-bug-reports-en/rl-noble-rivalry-will-not-end/13190089

    Please upvote everyone!

  • LadyAofPineapple's avatar
    LadyAofPineapple
    Seasoned Ace
    22 days ago

    Thank you for this idea. I'm not using mods but I can use the cheats to do the same thing. I tried to demote the Queen (by marriage) in her career (she was level 9 and therefore unable to promote because she can't be co-leader I guess) but her husband (King by career) is still listed as a rival.

    Edit: Leaving the noble career and cheating her back up to level 8 worked at clearing out the rival, so I guess she has to stay at level 8 noble. Still hoping this will be fixed soon!

  • leanmarie30's avatar
    leanmarie30
    Seasoned Newcomer
    3 days ago

    I literally just updated my game and I'm having the same problem. It totally ruined my married sims relationship! I'm so mad! I have been playing this game since the new pack came out with zero issues and now that I've updated they're rivals and their relationship is in the red! What the heck is this?!

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